Are you happy with the Pietta? And the Rossi would you recomend it?
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Are you happy with the Pietta? And the Rossi would you recomend it?
I found my Uberti 1866 was quite slick right out of the box.
In fact, it was a pleasant surprise after using '92's and 94's
The toggle action of the 1860's '66's and '73's is really something straight from the box with out mods or slicking up the action.
The 170 rule and "The Dance" is really no big thing. One simply steps forward from the side with the cross draw holster, then draw.
Another option is the "Cavalry Twist", where the draw is made with the muzzle always pointed to the ground until it is pointed downrange. The revolver is then righted with the muzzle downrange.
I always do my cross-draw and dance with the first draw I make, before I get in the zone and perhaps blow my draw and violate 170
A potential issue with drawing and then switching the revolver to the strong hand is the possibility of dropping it.
Either way, CAS a lot of fun.
The issue about fumbling and dropping while transitioning the grip to the strong hand is why I'm going to go with weak side cross draw.
I like your idea of doing the weak side first so I don't remember in the heat of the moment. Although for me going slower and doing it right first and then adding speed later is how I'm approaching the whole thing. Safety first, then fun, THEN worrying about winning.... mind you in my case the fun is more of a prize than the winning.
I like your idea of doing the weak side first so I don't remember in the heat of the moment. Although for me going slower and doing it right first and then adding speed later is how I'm approaching the whole thing. Safety first, then fun, THEN worrying about winning.... mind you in my case the fun is more of a prize than the winning.
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- Eastern Ont.
Cross draws look cool and makes "pulling" your second pistol a little easier.
But i never recomend this for new shooters.
It is easy to get DQ'd, and a new shooter that gets DQ'd early in the game,
may lose interest in the game real fast.
I started out with a left and right holster, then went to a strong side and cross draw for a year (with no troubles) but when i changed guns and required new holsters,
i went back to the left and right holsters.
You get used to the transfer fast, then it becomes second nature.
just practice at home (empty guns) going slow, over and over,
and after awhile its smooth and fast.
Find where you like to hang your holsters on you, with the correct belt tension,
make a mental note of it , and always try to duplicate it every time after.
This way the gun will be at the same place everytime you reach down for it.
Muscle memory.
As for rifle, i have a couple of thousand rounds through my Rossi 92 in .44mag,
and it works flawlessly.
Short actions work great for short cartridges.
As for pistols,
I bought 2 Chaparral peacemakers in .45LC when they first were offered.
One worked great, other one was a total POS that should have never left the factory.
The warrenty replacement works perfect.
(you have to adjust the gap between the recoil shield and back of cylinder yourself apparently
for proper cycling though.)
You can see the changes that have been made between each version.
3rd replacement one is of very good quality for the price.
But i never recomend this for new shooters.
It is easy to get DQ'd, and a new shooter that gets DQ'd early in the game,
may lose interest in the game real fast.
I started out with a left and right holster, then went to a strong side and cross draw for a year (with no troubles) but when i changed guns and required new holsters,
i went back to the left and right holsters.
You get used to the transfer fast, then it becomes second nature.
just practice at home (empty guns) going slow, over and over,
and after awhile its smooth and fast.
Find where you like to hang your holsters on you, with the correct belt tension,
make a mental note of it , and always try to duplicate it every time after.
This way the gun will be at the same place everytime you reach down for it.
Muscle memory.
As for rifle, i have a couple of thousand rounds through my Rossi 92 in .44mag,
and it works flawlessly.
Short actions work great for short cartridges.
As for pistols,
I bought 2 Chaparral peacemakers in .45LC when they first were offered.
One worked great, other one was a total POS that should have never left the factory.
The warrenty replacement works perfect.
(you have to adjust the gap between the recoil shield and back of cylinder yourself apparently
for proper cycling though.)
You can see the changes that have been made between each version.
3rd replacement one is of very good quality for the price.
I went cross draw for my first match and didn't have any issues once the requirement was explained to me. Mind you this was a club day and the RO was nice enough with the cross draw folks to remind us by calling out "Cross Draw Pivot" as we were holstering our strong side empty before starting to move to the other hip. I gather this isn't something that would be done in serious matches but hopefully by that time the newer shooters will have enough time under their belts to not need such reminders. For club level matches I'd say this would be a nice courtesy for new or relatively short time shooters.
A lesser recognized issue is when reloading and holstering a cross draw rig. I didn't twig onto his for my first ever stage and the mentor watching over me didn't say anything about it so I just holstered the strong side then the cross side without pivoting. It caught him off guard as well and he apoligised for not mentioning it but still took me to task for "sweeping" both his and my legs with the loaded gun while holstering the cross draw side. The Cross Draw Pivot is needed when BOTH holstering and drawing.
A lesser recognized issue is when reloading and holstering a cross draw rig. I didn't twig onto his for my first ever stage and the mentor watching over me didn't say anything about it so I just holstered the strong side then the cross side without pivoting. It caught him off guard as well and he apoligised for not mentioning it but still took me to task for "sweeping" both his and my legs with the loaded gun while holstering the cross draw side. The Cross Draw Pivot is needed when BOTH holstering and drawing.
Buffalo Creek Law Dog
Regular
So much so that I just ordered another from Marstar in 5.5 bbl .357 mag and wood grips.
My Rossi works perfectly with 158 gn SWC or RNFP in .357 cases with a minimum OAL of 1.5" Anything under that has a tendency to stovepipe.
Recommend it?...........I'm glad that I bought it. It is the 20" octagonal bbl model. Used it exclusively during the two day 12th annual Canadian Championship of CAS at Rocky Mountain House on the Aug long weekend, it was slicker than bull snot on a doorknob.
Cheers!
Buffalo Creek Law Dog
Regular
We shot 10 stages over two days not counting side matches. Rocky now surpasses fort Kusk. A lot of work went into setting up the old west town. Two sides to main street, one side you shoot on level ground, the other you shoot into a gulch where targets are intermingled amongst the trees. The saloon was moved to Rocky also, with a large porch added to the front and rear. The mine cart was also moved to Rocky and moves through the trees. This year we had 138 registered shooters.
I loved Fort Kusk but, I now love Rocky more. Visiting shooters were greatly impressed. Our monthly shoots are now record breakers with up to 71 shooters. I would say that this is probably the best CAS range in Canada right now for props and ambiance and includes on site camping.
Hope to see you next year.
There is a CAS match organized by the Fredericton recreational shooting association on Aug 30th. I'm planning on going so I can see first hand what it's all about. I have spoken with Tim Kairns from that club before, and he was good to let me try his Blackhawk once with .38 and then again with .357mag, I must admit it was a blast (no pun intended). Specially since I had never shot a handgun before. If I had any doubts they vanished at that moment. I'll be looking to see what guns and cal are being used, but mostlty, I just want to get a feel for the sport as such. Right now I am itching to get started but I'm saving some money and keeping my eyes open for good deals on the exchange specially for coach guns I probably will buy my SA new. By the spring I'll be fully equiped and ready to start.
I'm looking forward to the experience. If I have learned anything from you folks it's that it's ultimatly about fun, winning, maybe at some point we'll see.
Marc
I'm looking forward to the experience. If I have learned anything from you folks it's that it's ultimatly about fun, winning, maybe at some point we'll see.
Marc
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- Prince Albert, Saskatchewan
