CCI Aluminum Cases

[Spawn-Inc]

has anyone fired any recently and noticed if they are berdan or boxer primed?

i've reloaded them in 9mm and 45acp several times and yesterday at silverdale i found about 30 cases of 357 mag, so sure enough i wanted to reload them (for fun). i ran it through my sizing die and the decapper shot up because they were berdan primed! But that didn't stop me i used a metal rod and water to hydraulically remove the old primer and used standard small pistol mag primers with the anvil removed.


just wondering if they are old or new, i suspect it was an old box.

 

[.Ben]

interesting. ive only ever seen them boxer primed.

sort of off topic but I saw a guy on youtube once that was reloading milsurp steel cases by tightening the decapping pin enough that it would punch a hole in between the 2 small holes of the berdan primer.i think t was Czech 7.62x39

 

[GIGGIDY]

Alunmium cases should not be reloaded. That is why they are berdan primed. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

 

[c-fbmi]

Are they actually berden primed or are they just multiple flash hole boxer primed to discourage reloading? This was the impression I was under. (talking the modern NA alum cases) I've never actually looked at them, just throw them back on the ground when I find them.

 

[jacoblombardo]

Does the aluminum case have an " N R" stamped on it anywhere on the head stamp?

If so it should not be reloaded,

All my CCI aluminum cased ammo is Non-reloadable.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

interesting. ive only ever seen them boxer primed.

sort of off topic but I saw a guy on youtube once that was reloading milsurp steel cases by tightening the decapping pin enough that it would punch a hole in between the 2 small holes of the berdan primer.i think t was Czech 7.62x39

that would damage the decapping pin or damage the case i suspect. i tried it with the aluminum (to push the decapping pin up, lee set of dies) and the decapping pin went into one of the 2 holes and bend the anvil.

decapping with water didn't take to long, but i will not be reloading them again, to much work. if i had a small primer pocket reamer, i would have drilled out the anvil and use standard primers.

Alunmium cases should not be reloaded. That is why they are berdan primed. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

i know, but what's life without risk?!

Are they actually berden primed or are they just multiple flash hole boxer primed to discourage reloading? This was the impression I was under. (talking the modern NA alum cases) I've never actually looked at them, just throw them back on the ground when I find them.

yes they are properly berdan primed accept they use standard size primers so you can do what i did and remove the anvil from the primer and use that. well i guess i can't say that until i fire them, but i see no reason why it wouldn't work, they had the same resistance when seating normal primers.

Does the aluminum case have an " N R" stamped on it anywhere on the head stamp?

If so it should not be reloaded,

All my CCI aluminum cased ammo is Non-reloadable.

yes its does have NR, and while it says that, it's mainly a legality thing. it doesn't last near as long though because of how aluminum reacts compared to brass.


here are some pictures,

i found 4x 38spl cases and was able to reload them 4 times before the cases started to split, and they only split when i went to bell the case mouth, not when fired. with the 9mm and 45acp all that seems to happen is the primer pocket loosens to the point that the primer will fall out.

 

[7Sagebrush7]

I finally got around to emptying a box .357 yesterday. I've had them for 2 or 3 years in the back of the cupboard saving them for a rainy day. All of them were Berdan primed as well.

 

[GIGGIDY]

Your guns, your life. But when that #### blows up in your face, don't cry here. Hopefully you're the only one hurt and not a bystander.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

I finally got around to emptying a box .357 yesterday. I've had them for 2 or 3 years in the back of the cupboard saving them for a rainy day. All of them were Berdan primed as well.

cool, i guess it was old stock that someone else shot as well. pretty sure they switched to boxer primed now for the aluminum.

Your guns, your life. But when that #### blows up in your face, don't cry here. Hopefully you're the only one hurt and not a bystander.

fair enough, but logic dictates that the only difference in case is the type of metal. i'm not loading them hot and even if i was, the worst case is a cracked one. the internal capacities are the same or close enough that it won't make any difference.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

Well, i shot 10 rounds and i still have my fingers, and other bodily appendages.

cases look plenty fine and are ready for another reload, however it's a real pain to deprime and prime them, so i will toss them.

 

[safety first]

I hear some people get used tires from the dump too.

Common' guys

They still roll, what's the problem?




I'm just joking around, thank you for posting the thread, it was an interesting read, esp with the case pics showing the NR stamp.

Neat

 

[Boomer454]

I will admit I've done this with a hand full of 9mm and 45acp, but only to see if it could be done.

I actually know there is one 9mm in a coffee can of reloads that is an aluminum case CCI right now. It didn't get sorted, and by the it I noticed it was loaded. Won't be picking that one up when it's fired though.

The long and short of it is there is far more,better actual brass available, and it just not worth the trouble.

 

[graydog]

All of us have done silly things at one time or another and gotten away with it. Just because one can, does not mean one should. My body and guns are way to valuable to play around with things like that. Just mt two cents worth here.

Graydog

 

[sunray]

"...I've reloaded them..." You're asking for trouble. Al cases are not reloadable. You are not getting them resized as Al is not elastic and will not go back to the proper dimension.
"...because of how aluminum reacts compared to brass..." Nonsense.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

"...I've reloaded them..." You're asking for trouble. Al cases are not reloadable. You are not getting them resized as Al is not elastic and will not go back to the proper dimension.
"...because of how aluminum reacts compared to brass..." Nonsense.

i've already explained that, that's why you don't get as many reloads from the aluminum and why they put the NR stamp on it. but it can still be reloaded at least once, pending the calibre. they may have not gone back to saami spec, but they feed properly in my guns and revolver. so that's good enough.

i see why people say you don't know what your talking about half the time, or all the time. you say aluminum is not as elastic which is true, but then go on to say nonsense when i said aluminum reacts differently compared to brass.

you should likely think before you post. BTW, there is a quote button in the lower right corner below each persons posts.