CCI No.34 tell me about em please

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So i made the trek into town to post off the 7mm magnum, yep... i sold it!

but i went via the gunstore an picked up some AR2208 "Varget" to you folks , @ $130 a kilogram.
an then thought , heck, ill need some primers... Any primers i asked tentatively . ... "well ooohh, ahhh, hmmm what are you loading for?"

"30-06 mostly"

"oh well , stocks is LOW i havnt got much but i did find these last night in the basement , they are CCI an i dont know much about them..it says 7.62 nato an 30-06 on the box" he continues...

i um an arr,,,, he has 300 infront of me, Yeah frick it, they'l work. (** all intentions to race back home an ask CGN about these #34s! ))


So, will these work an whats the go about em?

Thanks crewPS- talks of 3 yrs until re stocked for primers etc. even projectiles are difficult to source
 
I have never used them, but as per Post #2 - if your firing pin spring is weak or protrusion not correct, will show up as misfires. Not likely directly interchangeable with standard energy primers, so likely have to back off your powder load and work back up, I would think. As I read - they were made for those military rounds that get the primers crimped in place for full-auto and semi-auto use. Apparently not as susceptible to "slam fire", due to stronger/harder casing on the primer. But, other than above, I suspect they would function just fine as replacement for standard Large Rifle primers. I doubt that you experience much minus 40 Celcius temperatures, so any benefit about cold weather ignition is likely moot for you.
 
HI; CCI-34 used in 7.62-39 SKS because of the slam fires with Federal primers. Worked just fine with reduced powder hammer spring. Now use them with black powder sub in Winchester lever rifle with reduced hammer spring, OK. They are supposed to be a harder cup for full auto military's but I like them just fine.
 
It was the same here in Canuckistan, I found 34's and researched the crap out of them. Most guys said they couldn't tell a difference between them and the 250's. As said they are a magnum primer, so larger charges/ball poweder/ cold weather. I saw one post where the guy was getting misfires, he probably needed a new spring or a good cleaning.

I was ready to pounce on them and then found BR2's for even less money so I jumped on those.

Primers are very scarce in my neck of the woods, and prices are way up as well.
 
They have less sensitivity. Want a good hit from the firing pin. As they are harder to ignite. Designed for semi autos to help prevent slam fires. Equivalent to the 250 and for use with ball powders.

I use them in a M70 in 264. Had problems with primers blanking out. Shot the same. The are harder to ignite not harder cup.

Was a firing pin issue for me.
 
WhelanLad said:
So i made the trek into town to post off the 7mm magnum, yep... i sold it!

but i went via the gunstore an picked up some AR2208 "Varget" to you folks , @ $130 a kilogram.
an then thought , heck, ill need some primers... Any primers i asked tentatively . ... "well ooohh, ahhh, hmmm what are you loading for?"

"30-06 mostly"

"oh well , stocks is LOW i havnt got much but i did find these last night in the basement , they are CCI an i dont know much about them..it says 7.62 nato an 30-06 on the box" he continues...

i um an arr,,,, he has 300 infront of me, Yeah frick it, they'l work. (** all intentions to race back home an ask CGN about these #34s! ))


So, will these work an whats the go about em?

Thanks crewPS- talks of 3 yrs until re stocked for primers etc. even projectiles are difficult to source
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LR primers, designed for military rifles. So, slightly harder than commercial grade. - dan
 
mbogo3 said:
AG42's are worst and I imagine the Hakim
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Mine has been very good, never a slam fire yet after at least 500 rounds, but before I shoot any semi auto I make a dummy load with a live primer and of course NO powder and cycle it to see if there is any indentation in the primer, I tried it with CCI 34 and Winchester, both got just a miniscule little mark in the primer, not nearly enough to ignite it .
One kind I'll never use again, (maybe except in bolt guns), is Federal, got more than one slamfire with those.
 
WhelanLad said:
So, will these work an whats the go about em?
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You already own them so load up a few rounds and get out and try them. That way you will know for sure if they work or not.

As mentioned if you developed your loads with standard primers knock it back a couple of grains to try these new hotter ones.
 
Awesomeness! appreciate the replies here on this fellas!

so the conclusion ive come too is, at this stage, keep my "federal" primers for the 7mm 08 and use the CCI for the future 30-06 loads and will adhere to precautions of loading below my load an working up- the goodness is my loads are not a MAX charge so i shouldnt have a drama there.

in the end, seems like it might be a good thing, Au down here can Snow , an in summer 40c deg. not that ive had issues with any primers before.



it might even be time to leave the Woodleighs where they are with the Federal primers to the side, an start load development with these 180gr Hornadys an CCI combo........... that way in the future IF i need a 150gr woodleigh loaded, i can use the same 'combo' an have say 10 rounds loaded.

but then its a Question of, is it worth holding on to them per se..... as much as i love them - recoil-performance- price was- etc , is it better to just load some /the rest (50) an then move onto CCI an 180s

hmmmmm, il have to take a hike an decide one day soon.

thanks again!
 
'Boo said:
You already own them so load up a few rounds and get out and try them. That way you will know for sure if they work or not.
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heaps easy to sell themm off down here an acquire a trade of what i need etc , if no good... if i shoot a bunch, who wants half a box of primers ha ha. cheers
 
WhelanLad - is good to have choices - suggest that you find out soonest whether those 180 Hornady even going to work for you or not - apparently you know the Woodleighs will and you know the load to use in your rifle. Bonus is if there is only minor adjustment to scope needed to switch one to the other. Is a coming thing, I think - not about what you think that you need, but about what you can actually get - so having alternatives for powder, bullets, primers can only be to your advantage, while you still can chose. Else be old guy like me and work up a load and then buy enough of those components, so that your grandkids will be using the last of them ...
 
I’ve loaded and shot thousands of rounds using #34’s in bolt actions (.308 in AI and Tikka). Never had problems, just work up. Used Lapua brass with IMR 4064 and 4895 as well as Varget.
 
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