CFO Pre-Inspection for Storage Safety

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I was doing the club gun safety course yesterday for the club I would like to join. All sorts of topics came up and discussed.

As a first-timer who does not have/own a firearm yet, I am most concerned around proper storage safety.

The Course Instructor mentioned your basics;

- Proper locked storage/cabinet for firearm, trigger lock, locked room etc etc.

Currently, I have invested in proper storage BEFORE buying the gun. I am using a walk-in closet for my gun-room. The doorframe is metal. The door is not. I installed a Garrison lock-&-key doorknob. Inside the room is a brand new 300+ pound 24-gun cabinet brand new with combination dial. I will be storing my ammo inside an ammo-can with pad-lock, locked, inside the gun cabinet with the guns. Obviously when I obtain a pistol/rifle/shotgun, I will keep the trigger lock on it when not in use inside the cabinet.

My issue is "interpretation" for storage safety. The club-instructors solution was that if I was really concerned, I could get a CFO to come to my dwelling and look at my set-up after which, he would write me up an official form that would stated "Mr So-&-So has the appropriate set-up for firearms storage".........or not.

Anyone here had a CFO come to their home to check if their storage is sufficient before purchasing firearms?

Good idea/Bad Idea????
 
You are way over the minimum with the setup you have described.

I personally would not bother with an inspection...I try to minimize contact with bureaucrats and other apparatchiks, as it usually complicates my life in unpleasant ways.
 
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You have already exceeded safe storage requirements , so why bother . I doubt if the CFO would even bother coming over unless you are a collector , or a dealer since many CFOs are already swamped with work.....
 
Wow, in no way would I ever invite the cfo over to my place. The law is a trigger lock. Anything above and beyond that is a buffer between you and any charges they could dream up. You are more safe than the law specifies with a safe, I wouldn't worry yourself anymore about it.
 
I'm skeptical that the CFO would do this. The storage laws are vague and subject to interpretation by the courts. I don't think the CFO would put him/herself in a position where a judge might not agree, skewering the CFO's credibility.

Understand that the CFO's opinion is just an opinion - an opinion likely to be closely considered by the court but that is all. They are not the arbiters of law.

If you do try for a pre-inspection, I would appreciate hearing how it goes.

On another note, I believe you're overthinking things. Follow generally accepted standards that would pass the "reasonable man" test like the rest of us and I'm confident you will be fine.
 
Can't say I would ever invite a CFO over to check my storage despite the fact I follow the guidelines as loose and subjective as they may be.
 
My understanding is that one of the principles of trial law is never ask a witness a question for which you (the attorney) don't already know the answer.

Similar concept applies here. Don't ask a one-man quasi-judicial panel (CFO) to render a judgement on a matter
that could have a negative outcome for yourself.

Volunteering anything to the Justice Dept is a bad move.` If you really feel the need to consult engage an attorney
who specialized in the Firearm Act.
 
That would only justify the existence of the CFO further. If you took the course or read the book, you should know the laws already. Including the fact that you can just remove your gun's bolt and chuck it in the closet.
 
I hope you aren't a data mining liberal with that question.

What club are you associated with and what is the individual's name that told you to seek an inspection from CFO? I hate hearing the blind trying to lead the blind.
 
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I hope you aren't a data mining liberal with that question.

What club are you associated with and what is the individual's name that told you to seek an inspection from CFO? I hate hearing the blind trying to lead the blind.
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I was doing the Club ATT Course over at Silverdale. Not sure if I should give the name of the instructor.

I'm not mining for data or a "Fib" supporter.
 
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Understand that the CFO's opinion is just an opinion - an opinion likely to be closely considered by the court but that is all. They are not the arbiters of law.
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I agree with those saying not to bother and that you are already beyond the point where it could even be a grey area.

But, as far as having the CFO opinion (if you get it) and ending up in court goes, there is a basic defence that would apply that you did everything you could and you even sought out the best advice you could get and they agreed with what you were doing.

Even if the judge ruled somehow that it wasn't up to spec, the odds that the judge would feel that you need any sort of punishment/fine/etc would be pretty darn low. IF that bizarre thing was to happen, the judge would more than likely just issue an order telling you what you had to change and giving you some period of time to do it.

It would be really hard for the crown to try to argue that you did something wrong intentionally, negligently or even within your power to know it was wrong.
 
Challenger I see from a lot of your post you are new to this and lots of question which is great.

Have you actually read the firearms act yet?

Gun stores
"instructors"
and the RCMP are not great sources of information

Please take the time to read the firearms act and that will give you a basis of information from which you can expand your knowledge and understanding. It is literally 75 pages it is also advisable to read the explosive act regulation as that is what the law on ammo is not the firearms act.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/f-11.6/

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/index.html

Specifically sections: 267 to 305 labeled part 14 those are the section that apply for ammo

Shawn
 
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shawn said:
Challenger I see from a lot of your post you are new to this and lots of question which is great.

Have you actually read the firearms act yet?

Gun stores
"instructors"
and the RCMP are not great sources of information

Please take the time to read the firearms act and that will give you a basis of information from which you can expand you knowledge and understanding. It is literally 75 pages it is also adviasable to read the exsplosive act regulation as that is whatthe law on ammo is not the firearms act.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/f-11.6/

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/index.html

Specifically sections: 267 to 305 labeled part 14 those are the section that apply for ammo

Shawn
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Ok, Thanks man.
 
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