Challenging both exams soon, practical test details?

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Yes I know this has probably been asked a million times, but could some one answer this for me; after I get my R/PAL, I promise I'll answer the next one that comes along. :D

I'm already aware of what they might ask you on the non restricted practical exam, ie crossing an imaginary fence, proving the firearm safe, finding right ammunition etc., but what do they generally ask on the restricted practical test? ACTS/PROVE, finding right ammunition, dealing with hangfires and jams? :confused:

Please don't say "take the course", I really don't need the course to get such simple concepts into my head. I already have the restricted manual in PDF, will be going over it.
 
I know, those are basic things, but like are there any specific routines the instructor asks you to go through? Ie like unloading a gun: put on safety, pull out the mag then rack the slide to eject the chambered round.
 
nabiul said:
Please don't say "take the course", I really don't need the course to get such simple concepts into my head. I already have the restricted manual in PDF, will be going over it.
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Possessing a restricted firearms license goes beyond "simple concepts." A well-run course will teach you far more than what you'll need to know to pass the practical exam: it will teach you about what's expected of you by the law and by more experienced firearms owners... at the range and in the field.

The difference between a firearm user who gets respect from his fellow shooters and one who doesn't is attitude. Demonstrate you have the right attitude by asking the right questions.

If you need help finding a good instructor, ask for it here. You'll get a better response than trying to find a short cut to the RPAL.
 
Already found one, and I'm going to be challenging only. I've been using airguns for sometime now and reading about firearms for a long time. I've also gone and fired some relays at the scarborough rifle club a while back.

Just asking for some helpful hints on what to expect, I'm not asking you to give me an answer key for the exam, I'm not asking you to bend over backwards for me. I'm also not asking about sliencers, exploding ammo, grenade launchers, or carrying guns in backpacks across the city. Don't put me in with that crowd ahead of time.

I honestly don't care about rpal, theres no real incentive for shelling out thousands for something you can only take from your house to the range and punch paper with for dollars per round. A cheap airgun can do the same. My brother however is fixated on getting a handgun, for what reason I can't imagine and since we are going to be doing the test at the same time, I figured I might as well do the test as well.
 
Wendell said:
Take the course.
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+2. TAKE THE COURSE.
I thought I could challenge the test np, but when I did do the course, and then did the tests, I realised I never would've passed unless I did take it. They dont talk about stupid bs for two and a half days... theres a lot of ground to cover. It's a gun, not an ipod - and one should learn as much as they can about the safe and lawful operation of them.
Just my .02, good luck with the 4 tests on which you have to get 80% or higher to pass. POst back and let us know how you did, maybe you can prove me wrong but I doubt it.


ps - an "airgun" is a gun in appearance only and is akin to saying, I can drive a car np, Ive been playing video games for a long time...
 
Not every exam is the same as I understand it. I would guess there are certain mandatory points you must prove to the examiner. But I believe the company/instructor that runs it can make up and add whatever they want. If you seem not to sure of yourself, I bet they will add extra steps just to test you.
They are afterall training the future of this sport.
 
rivetc78 said:
Not every exam is the same as I understand it. I would guess there are certain mandatory points you must prove to the examiner. But I believe the company/instructor that runs it can make up and add whatever they want. If you seem not to sure of yourself, I bet they will add extra steps just to test you.
They are afterall training the future of this sport.
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There are 4 versions of the written test, and different instructors will ask you to do different things in the practical.

Some ask you to prepare the firearm for storage, others ask you to prepare the firearm for transport to the range. Some ask to show how you would cross a fence wile hunting alone, others ask how you would cross a fence when hunting with a partner, and the list goes on and on.
 
nabiul said:
Already found one, and I'm going to be challenging only. I've been using airguns for sometime now and reading about firearms for a long time. I've also gone and fired some relays at the scarborough rifle club a while back.

Just asking for some helpful hints on what to expect, I'm not asking you to give me an answer key for the exam, I'm not asking you to bend over backwards for me. I'm also not asking about sliencers, exploding ammo, grenade launchers, or carrying guns in backpacks across the city. Don't put me in with that crowd ahead of time.

I honestly don't care about rpal, theres no real incentive for shelling out thousands for something you can only take from your house to the range and punch paper with for dollars per round. A cheap airgun can do the same. My brother however is fixated on getting a handgun, for what reason I can't imagine and since we are going to be doing the test at the same time, I figured I might as well do the test as well.
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No offense intended, but this doesn't exactly give anyone the greatest impression of your brother.

It sounds like he is getting his licence for all the wrong reasons and IS one of THAT crowd.
 
c_diddy said:
+2. TAKE THE COURSE.
I thought I could challenge the test np, but when I did do the course, and then did the tests, I realised I never would've passed unless I did take it. They dont talk about stupid bs for two and a half days... theres a lot of ground to cover. It's a gun, not an ipod - and one should learn as much as they can about the safe and lawful operation of them.
Just my .02, good luck with the 4 tests on which you have to get 80% or higher to pass. POst back and let us know how you did, maybe you can prove me wrong but I doubt it.


ps - an "airgun" is a gun in appearance only and is akin to saying, I can drive a car np, Ive been playing video games for a long time...
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You would be surprised how many things an airgun can have similar to a firearm. That is speaking of the pneumatic and co2 of course. If you've ever also looked at one of those blowback pistols from umarex (the ppk is the one I have), they have very similar parts to real handguns including a 'firing pin', except it strikes the back of the valve instead of the primer on a cartridge.

Here just to give you an idea.

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soulchaser said:
No offense intended, but this doesn't exactly give anyone the greatest impression of your brother.

It sounds like he is getting his licence for all the wrong reasons and IS one of THAT crowd.
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While that may be true and he wants it probably for novelty proposes if not anything else, there is some consolation in the fact that he wants to keep it locked up at the range, although I'm not sure if the range that we want to join allows that.


Hey it's up to him to pass the test, I told him that he probably wouldn't if he challenges it.
 
rivetc78 said:
Not every exam is the same as I understand it. I would guess there are certain mandatory points you must prove to the examiner. But I believe the company/instructor that runs it can make up and add whatever they want. If you seem not to sure of yourself, I bet they will add extra steps just to test you.
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The test is a federal standard. Instructors are all supposed to administer the course in exactly the same way no matter where you live, with ABSOLUTELY NO DEVIATION FROM THE EXAM SCRIPT. You're supposed to handle three different firearms in each of the CFSC and CRFSC. The scenarios for crossing obstacles with a long gun will vary but the instructors are supposed to be scoring the same items regardless of the type of obstacle they use.

From what I've heard and seen there is actually huge variation in how examiners do the tests. Some test exactly as they are supposed to while others routinely cheat on behalf of their students in an effort to get a pass (and their fee) as quickly as possible, skipping portions of the tests, coaching, etc.

You had better be well prepared in case you get an honest, by the book, examiner...
 
dHb said:
The test is a federal standard. Instructors are all supposed to administer the course in exactly the same way no matter where you live, with ABSOLUTELY NO DEVIATION FROM THE EXAM SCRIPT. You're supposed to handle three different firearms in each of the CFSC and CRFSC. The scenarios for crossing obstacles with a long gun will vary but the instructors are supposed to be scoring the same items regardless of the type of obstacle they use.

From what I've heard and seen there is actually huge variation in how examiners do the tests. Some test exactly as they are supposed to while others routinely cheat on behalf of their students in an effort to get a pass (and their fee) as quickly as possible, skipping portions of the tests, coaching, etc.

You had better be well prepared in case you get an honest, by the book, examiner...
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When I did my pratical tests, for the non-restricted, the instructor made sure I handled all 5 long guns (bolt, hinge, pump, lever and semi) they had, even if it was just to show a particular shooting stance, he wanted to make sure I was able to do the ACTS and PROVE on all 5.

For the restricted I handled the single action, double action and semi.
 
rivetc78 said:
Just try and be the first one there :) While the examiner is still in a good mood and has a fresh coffee.
He might even take it easy on you....cough* coach ahem@ cough*...
Look up http://www.guns.to/fac/index.htm. Like I said go early :)
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Emailed them a few days ago, no response. Their classes are full till next year any ways. Called bass pro, same situation: full classes. I finally went to the site that lists certified instructors for ontario from a link in the CFC and found two local instructors. The one that picked up his phone turned out to be a full time instructor who has an office open 7 days a week. I lucked out, going to register this weekend and hopefully will be able to write the tests after my uni exams are finished. If you think the CFSC exams are hard, well be glad they aren't exams on calculus/chemistry/physics. :(
 
rivetc78 said:
Just try and be the first one there :) While the examiner is still in a good mood and has a fresh coffee.
He might even take it easy on you....cough* coach ahem@ cough*...
Look up http://www.guns.to/fac/index.htm. Like I said go early :)
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soo... in other words.. show up in something skimpy.. flirt with the examiner and im sure to pass :D haha.

joke of course. ill need to study my ass off im sure
 
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