Change of Interest/M1/M1 Carbine

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Gentlemen,
Since CMP is almost out of M1 Garands, do you think that the interest will shift from the M1 Garand to the M1 Carbine? Do many of you think of buying just one Carbine or go for a group of them, as was done with the M1 Garand? I know the money problem will enter into this, but I would like to hear what you guys think.
Thanks again
Clancy
 
I dont think CMP avalibility effects Canadian market values too much since the CMP won't sell to Canadians directly so I wonder what the number of guns that come up are actually through CMP. :)

As for the Carbines its really too bad they didn't make the barrels alittle longer so they would be currently all non-restricted. :)

Dimitri
 
carbine are all ready a hot commodity: saving private ryan, band of brothers and all the wwii games have made the demand skyrocket
 
Clancy, you're cutting and pasting your posts from the U.S. forums. The CMP won't sell to us foreigners. Even if they did, $495US converts to $571.50Cdn. Add the rest of the fees and duty and we'd be paying close to a grand and still have a rifle we can't shoot. And quit teasing us or I'll tell you what I paid for my 1903A4.
 
I don't think popularity will ever really shift from one to the other..

the individual popularities of these two firearms will definitely fluctuate as everything else does, but I doubt there will be a direct correlation between the two fluctuations...
 
the m1 carbine holds no interest for me whatsoever-the garand, however,could keep my interest- mostly the difference in the usefullness of the 2 cartridges-
 
hardly awesome- it's a glorified pistol cartridge, has somewhat poor accuracy and short range- the only enamoring feature is that it's a ww2 mil surp- plus i've seen more than one have a head separation at the range- i'd take the garand any day of the week
 
I have MANY m1 carbines and I have NEVER ever paid more then $400. Canadian for one

I have 2 irwin pedersons (very rare maker)

and i have an all orig T3 (m3) carbine with complete with The origional
Infr-red sighting system made by Inland

I often find USGI carbines in the $200-300 range many are NOT rebuilt and have the orig flip sights
i even got an orig paratroop m1a1 for $225.00 all orig not rebuilt

carbines in canada are plentiful and cheap for now and hopefully by the time they are worth big$$$ ill own them ALL in canada!!!!!:runaway:
 
t-star said:
hardly awesome- it's a glorified pistol cartridge, has somewhat poor accuracy and short range- the only enamoring feature is that it's a ww2 mil surp- plus i've seen more than one have a head separation at the range- i'd take the garand any day of the week
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really I can hit a man sized target in the chest with ease at 100 meters standing with no rest

ive fired thousands of rnd including thousandas of rnds thru m2's fullauto and have NEVER had a case seperate even shooting that crap marstar had surplus a few years ago (real bad stuff) rotted cases loose bullets many fail to fire but NO case seperations

were they orig GI rifles are somebody home assembly or aftermarket gun or barrel?

garand 8 rnd clip that CANT be topped up with out electing your entire clip

M1 carbine 15 rnd magazine easly changed and can reload rifle in the ready to fire condition (rnd in chamber ) cant do that with garand
 
my saginaw is non-r as well :D
good times in the forest with that little thing..

and man, when i put it beside my restricted m1... boy, that extra inch sure makes the other a lot scarier...
####ing liberal retards..
 
The M1 carbine can be partially blamed for a lot of the gun laws we suffer under in Canada. Thirty or forty years ago, sawed off M1s and M2s were the weapon of choice for bank robbers. Patty Hearst and the criminal gang that kidnapped her typified the criminal popularity of carbines. I think it was about 1979 when the feds rewrote the parts of the Criminal Code to require registration of semi-autos with barrels less than 18" specifically to get paperwork on carbines. It went downhill from there.

Because of the registration requirements, fewer and fewer guys seem interested in them. As for CMP and M1s, we have them to thank for some of the silly resale prices and popularity of Garands. Less than 10 yrs ago they were being flogged for $150 by Alan Lever because he had so many that couldn't be shipped to the US. The tables have turned and now a fair Garand pushes $700.00.
 
I recently purchased an M-1 carbine on GN forum. I was pleasantly surprised how well it shot. Previous experience with the accuracy of the carbine was horrible...minute of garbage can at 50 yards. The IBM/1943 shot under 2 inches at 50 yards with a 20 MPH wind and minus 3 temps. BTW, this was with factory milspec ammo, will have to try reloads next.
My Garand wil print a 6 inch group at 300 yards if I do my part right...and average 1.5 at 100 yds.
Both rifles (M-1 and M-1) have their good and bad points. Viewing them in a 1940's perspective, with given technology of the time they were the best there was. However, some are quick to point out deficiencies in their design based on current technology of the modern "plastic" rifles. Remember...in 1944 there was no such thing as an SKS or an AR-15/M-16, so don't get drawn into comparisons of the two eras.
The carbine has rapidly become my rifle of choice to drag out to the range...it is simply a fun gun to shoot, but a real bugger to find the brass afterwards.
Cheers
 
One has to keep in mind that the carbine was a replacement for the M1911 when training large numbers of people. A handgun takes a lot of practice while most folks can hit things with a rifle. Not to mention if your primary duties are not as infantrymen.

I just think it made a great sub-machine gun. same 30 rd mag but a lot hotter than 9mm.
 
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