Changing 45-70

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I have been looking at a hunter buffalo gun and it is in 45-70 as it sits . I would like to do some real long shooting with it and was recommended to use the 45-120 cartridge.

Would there be much involved in doing this , changing from one cartridge to another more powerful one?
 
I had a buddy that did this conversion and the action just sprang too much with the case head thrust of the .45/120. Of course, you can reduce loads greatly but then why bother and the .45/120 brass and whatnot and expense of the conversion is adding without a lot of gain. It would be different on a stronger action.
 
O.K. So what you are telling me is that if I want a 45-120 buy one straight out. I sort of figured that is would be alot to ream out of the barrel but thought that I'd just check with the wisdom of the board .
 
shortround........if you are using smokeless powder you certainly don't need or want a 45-120....how long is long shooting?....BPCR guys use the 45-70 clear out to 1000yds and alot of them are shooting silly-wets up to 500 meters with a cart. of smaller cap. ie. 40-65 and 38-55.......I don't shoot Black but have a number of rifles in 45-70 and that cart. which will give you all you want to handle and more with smokless.... :) ....cheers mic
 
45-70 will launch a 500gr LR bullet at up to 1450fps with ease using smokeless powder. That meets and exceeds the 45-120 BP loads. With any modern action, it will easily handle that type of pressure.

Hope you have a good recoil pad...

Jerry
 
shortround said:
I have been looking at a hunter buffalo gun and it is in 45-70 as it sits . I would like to do some real long shooting with it and was recommended to use the 45-120 cartridge.

Would there be much involved in doing this , changing from one cartridge to another more powerful one?

I think the question is not can you but why would you? Long range black powder shooting especially is a question of learning your sight settings and learning accurate loading technique. In a sense it does not matter if the slug drops 10 feet or 15 feet at a given range just learn where the sight setting is. You will always be shooting at a known range and with a spotter.
The biggest negative to the 45-120 and similar cartridges is the recoil. I have owned one and shot one or two others; even in a 12 lb gun the recoil is uncomfortable for me.

cheers mooncoon
 
buckbrush said:
dizzy dan 1 said:
I could have bought A Ruger # 1 in 45-120 at the Eganville Show for $600 as New, let it slip through my fingers. :( DAN>>>[/quote

$600 is the going rate for a Ruger #1 reciever alone around here.

I guess I should sell my Ruger #1 458 WM in Parts then :shock: :lol: :wink: .DAN>>>
 
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