Changing a 99 savage to a different cartridge

senior said:
Geeze 22-45, what part of "Will Not Fit" can't you comprehend??

A 300Sav case won't go thru a 250-3000 rotator, a 308 won't go thru the rotator & now you'd like a .284 based case which is even larger :rolleyes:

Here's an idea how about a nice Sav 99 in .348 that would be KOOL ;)

I GIVE!!!
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Senoir,
I'm a little slow on the uptake but I got it now. You're not saying that those cartridges can't be chambered in a 99, just that the .250 rotator can't be used with the larger cartridge. Gotcha!

Seeing as how a barrel switch is a custom gig anyway, it would be possible for the gunsmith to open up the rotator or replace it, would it not?
 
Senior:
I have a lathe and a mill, a drill press, a band saw, a cutting torch and a fair collection cutting tools. I am fairly well equipped when it comes to grinding equipment also. It is true that space may not permit somethings to fit, I do not think there is room for a 45/70 in a 99 savage action. But, with a judicious bit of metal removal either on the rotary mechanism, or perhaps slightly changing the shape of the cavity that the rotary magazine works in there may be room for a slightly larger cartridge than originally came in the rifle. I was wondering if some other gun nut had made a rifle into either a wildcat or a caliber/cartridge that was not originally available. I was not expecting this to be a simple barrel swap. I do not think that these kinds of changes are ever simple, and it is true that by the time you do it you probably have more money and time in it than it is "worth". But my involvement in the hobby is not about profit, and success is not judged in monetary value. I will have a serious look when I get a chance to see which cartridges there are room for.

Allen
 
Why are you guys only arguing reciever space when it comes to rechambering. The rotor must be the correct size, yes but nobody had taken into consideration wall thickness yet either. you can't go opening up a 99 barrel especially the lighter models like an F or a G and be safe. The wall thickness will be paper thin and you'll end up with a whole bunch of scars on your face.

22to45: yes there is a difference in the barrels. All the Savage barrels were square threaded barrels up to the 1,000,000 serial number and into the A series rifles which will be v thread barrels.
 
MadDog said:
Why are you guys only arguing reciever space when it comes to rechambering. The rotor must be the correct size, yes but nobody had taken into consideration wall thickness yet either. you can't go opening up a 99 barrel especially the lighter models like an F or a G and be safe. The wall thickness will be paper thin and you'll end up with a whole bunch of scars on your face.

22to45: yes there is a difference in the barrels. All the Savage barrels were square threaded barrels up to the 1,000,000 serial number and into the A series rifles which will be v thread barrels.
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Joe
You know my thoughts on this .Normaly I would say leave it alone as I have seen several very talented smiths give up in disgust or swear "never again"
Let me review the problems
1 two different barrel threads
2 two different rotor\action lengths
3 restricted in cartridge diameter as well as lower pressure
4 Very few existing rotors marked as to what caliber they where machined for.

The only way I can see is to build a new rotor.Easiest way would be to chamber it like a revolver wheel and then cut it down in a lathe .Lots of machining.Might be able to build a 223 that way?
 
Thank you all.
These answers have satisfied my curiosity. It sounds like Mad Dog and RR are saying that the 99 has a small barrell tenon, and is there is not enough iron for a larger diameter cartridge. That will nix it for me. I have an allergy to seeing a chamber open in front of me.

Thanks
Allen
 
Throw a PM at Captonion, he made one into a 257R, it worked OK but if I remember correct the bullets had to be deep throated, I believe he used a .300S rotator but not sure.

Still say throw a .250s barrel on it or .250AI if you want the R+ velocities :)
 
Or buy a nice .300S there reasonably priced & been killing deer for a number of years ;)

22-45, if you want to get rid of the shot out .250 I might be interested, I have a couple other clunkers I might be able to make a shooter out of :)
 
RR said:
I have seen a C changed to 257 Roberts.It works quite well.If the rifle has a rotor it can get quite interesting to make it feed.You are restricted to 308 length or shorter depending on year of rifle.High pressure rounds are a nono as well due to the rear lockup.
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The 257 Roberts works quite well. I have thought of turning it into the AI:D
 
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