cheap cool/tacticool rifle choices ?

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Now that cool 22's have been around for a while i was wondering which are decent plinkers ans which ones are problematic ?

was looking at these 2 for a start

Mossberg Tactical 22

Or the other cool,plinker i'm considering. Baikal MP161K

Are there any others tacticool plinkers available that are in the $500 price range?
 
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My 10/22 with archangel stock on it brings a smile to my face everytime i use it and gets many comments at the range. Not to mention it is a tack driver and eats every ammo.
Cost was $239 basic 10/22 + $169 Archangel stock + $30 ea for 25/30 rnd mags ect. Well within your budget. Get a Prooven design and gun, never look back.

Mark
 
So the Mossberg @ $250 and the Baikal @ $399 is not a proven designs ? Just wondered. Wouldnt mind hearing from people that may own these to see if they are junk .
 
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It really depends on what you want in your rifle ... Personally, I hate any plastic on my rifles, so I went with the Ruger SR-22 cause its pretty much all aluminium, compared to the mossberg which feels like a toy cause its totally plastic. But then again, SR22's are 600 for the gun, then you end up putting another 400 in upgrades after ... But you got a sick rifle
 
Ballox said:
So the Mossberg @ $250 and the Baikal @ $399 is not a proven designs ? Just wondered. Wouldnt mind hearing from people that may own these to see if they are junk .
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10/22 has been around since 1964 and has sold millions of rifles. So prooven? Yes! can the same be said for the other two?


Mark
 
troubleinxs said:
10/22 has been around since 1964 and has sold millions of rifles. So prooven? Yes! can the same be said for the other two?


Mark
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Nobody said that the Ruger wasn't proven.............As a matter of fact 80% of my pistols are Ruger. Getting a 10/22 and blinging it up really isnt my thing. I would really have something that the factory did.


The idea of my thread was to ask for input to see if the Mossberg or Baikal were Proven to be unreliable.
 
Sorry not trying to sound argumentative. I only know and have seen about two of each at my range. The Mossberg is very cheaply made and is finiky. The baikal, of the two i've seen one does not work at all. Keeps falling apart as it is used. The other one say he has no issues but never shoots it. Every 10/22 at my range incluing my two go bang every time.

Mark
 
I have the 715t yes its light somr miner mag trouble wen new needed some cleaning polishing inside but other than that its been great for the price fun to shoot its a 702 plinckster in a clam shell same as the archangel types so i would say its good for the price other than above mentioned its reliable
 
I have the Mossberg Tactical and it is a piece of junk as for as I am concern jams at least once or twice per clip and I have tried most brands. Sights are horrible. Do yourself a favor and buy anything but.
 
No issues with my 715. I've only fired Blazer and Federal bulk. No jams or misfires so far. Once I adjusted the sights for my own shortcomings, I was stunned at it's consistency.
Bottom line: It's an inexpensive rifle, with a lot of the manufacturing attention being devoted to cosmetics. I think it's maybe a hit and miss sort of thing as far as final fit goes. Maybe I just got lucky.
Then again, maybe there's a reason you can't find extra 715 mags for love or money right now.
 
I kinda wondered how bad it can be.I don't see a flood of them on EE and there are no mags available for them anywhere.
 
Yup...lot of plastic on the Mossberg.
But...$300 for the gun and another $250 ($550) total and I have added a decent Leapers red dot, foreward grip, rail covers, single point sling...it's one nice looking gun.
It was finicky to begin with, until I found the ammo it likes (Blazer) and broke in the springs on the mags.
Yesteday at the range put 250 rounds through it without a failure of any kind.
Just like the last 10 trips to the range.
You'll read this gun can be problematic.
I look at it this way...Mossberg sells a literal ton of these things...they are always out of stock at many retailers who will tell you that as soon as they get an order they are sold out.
But you get that 2 or 3% who get a dud and they spend all their time on the net #####ing...while the rest of us (about 98%) are out at the range having a hoot.
 
Any will do, just depends on what you will be happy with. I like an aluminum frame, so I got the 10/22 with a Troy T22 stock.

Honestly I see way too many people posting things like "DON'T EVEN BUY XX BRAND" and then go on to explain an ordeal with a product to which they returned to the manufacturer twice and still having issues, then exchanging it at a loss for another of the same model and going through the same problems again etc.. I'm not going to say its all lies, but that its just a little over the top. Maybe it is horrible bad luck, or a bit of embelishment. But these reviews happen for every rifle out there because no product is perfect, and even more importantly, human error is always a factor.

I think it would be safe to say that any rifle out there has at most a 2-3% defect rate, otherwise it wouldn't be profitable. Now just think of how many rifles are out there in circulation, then think about the fact that people who have problems with their purchase are alot more likely to post a review than people with no issues at all. Sometimes there are some products that are known to have some issues and most of the time these are going to be common knowledge on the web with quick fixes etc...

In the end, just get what seems to be what you were looking for and research any issues or workarounds..

As for which tacticool to watch out for, the Keltec SU22 seems like a nice toy :D
 
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I just spoke with the owner of Interammo about his experience with Baikal MP161K. He says it works like a sewing machine and eats up everything you give it!

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Yup...lot of plastic on the Mossberg.
But...$300 for the gun and another $250 ($550) total and I have added a decent Leapers red dot, foreward grip, rail covers, single point sling...it's one nice looking gun.
It was finicky to begin with, until I found the ammo it likes (Blazer) and broke in the springs on the mags.
Yesteday at the range put 250 rounds through it without a failure of any kind.
Just like the last 10 trips to the range.
You'll read this gun can be problematic. I look at it this way...Mossberg sells a literal ton of these things...they are always out of stock at many retailers who will tell you that as soon as they get an order they are sold out.
But you get that 2 or 3% who get a dud and they spend all their time on the net #####ing...while the rest of us (about 98%) are out at the range having a hoot.
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I think that if the OP is flirting with the idea of going the same ^ route, then the $550 price point opens-up some options. To each his own, but if I was looking at a black .22, I'd get a Kel-Tec SU-22. To me, more interesting than the options, and it can't be any less accurate than a 10/22. (the heart of the SU-22) In the hand, the SU-22 trumps everything else that is non-restricted in terms of heft, and a "quality" feel. I do keep hearing people bring-up the Mossberg, but it seems every time I go to the range, I see guys fighting with those guns to make them work. Maybe the guns are brand new (they look it) but it can't be a coincidence..? Don't see other rimfires being fussed with the same way. Not a blanket "they suck" comment, but let's put things in perspective. On a web forum, you're surrounded by enthusiasts and a big pool of experience and information. A big support network if you run into problems. I feel bad for some of the guys I've seen who buy one off the rack, then fight with it on the first trip(s) to the range when a 10/22 or Marlin would most likely chug-away without issues. A $150 Marlin 795 doesn't look like an AR, but costs allot less than a Mossberg Tactical and would likely shoot circles around it. It's all black too, for the record.

I must be feeling grumpy...is it Monday? :)
 
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