Cheryl Gallant Petition

[cordilleran]

As for "proof" that they won't take all our guns away, I have only my response from Trudeau's office that says they won't.

At any rate, thank you for your contribution to the cause - and I will continue to hammer away for gun rights as well, from MY POV. There are more of us "lefty" gun owners than one might think - especially by perusing THIS website (as much fun as it is!)...

Cheers
bMf

True enough, the Liberals won't take away our single shots, break actions and bolt actions. Everything else is likely on the table. Odd that you seem to support the Liberals and Libertarians both, when there is such a chasm between the principles of the libertarians and the micro-meddling central planning Liberals (except maybe pot). You're either a deeply conflicted person, or not honest about supporting one of the above.

 

[Tuco Pike]

People who say that the petition of hers is not the answer, then what are you doing besides writing letters? What concrete measures are you personally taking to effect change? Writing a letter is fine, but at this stage of the game that is less than the bare minimum required. So I say again, instead of disagreeing with her, and yet again dividing ourselves for the anti's to easily pick off, what are the nay sayers actually doing, not what they are discussing, not what they are saying you should not do, what are the ACTUALLY doing?

 

[teknition]

I would support a motion that would regulate firearms on a provincial level. That way popular wishes/requirements specific to locality could be addressed better. For example, if rural Albertans want to take a revolver in the field, they should have permission to do so. At the same time municipalities may restrict firearms somewhat (transport, discharge, storage restrictions) and this should be based on a democratic decision. IMHO the panicky perception of the general populus in Toronto, that handguns are primarily responsible for all evil on this planet, shouldn't have any repercussions on the rest of us.

So, to put it in a nutshell. "To hell with the rest of my fellow GunNutz, as long as I get to take my pistol in the bush I will toss them all under the bus".

Thanks

 

[RememberTheSomme]

This petition by Rob Enders is a better one IMHO

http://www.nominaterobanders.com/fi...ition&utm_me dium=email&utm_source=robanders#

signed

 

[awndray]

Miller Seconds M-452-Firearms Act

March 5, 2014

Miller Seconds M-452-Firearms Act

Ottawa, ON – Recently, Larry Miller, MP for Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound, seconded M-452, a motion put forward in the House of Commons by Cheryl Gallant, MP for Renfrew-Nipissing-Pembroke, that deals with firearms reclassifications and various reforms to firearms regulation.

M-452 would amend Sections 117, 118 and 119 of the Firearms Act to establish a “Firearms Experts Technical Committee with the goal of restoring public confidence in the functions and operations of the Canadian Firearms Registration System. This committee would be permanent and would oversee such things as firearms reclassifications and would have regulatory powers with regards to the safe handling of firearms.

Essentially, M-452 would remove the responsibility from the RCMP for classifying categories of firearms and place this responsibility within the scope of the duties of the Firearms Experts Technical Committee. The committee would be composed of the following members: 1) RCMP, 2) Ontario Forensic Centre, 3) four individuals appointed to the committee as civilian firearms experts. Furthermore, M-452 would place a moratorium on firearms reclassification until the permanent committee is in place.

“Having a safe, fair and transparent firearms registration system is a top priority for law-abiding hunters, anglers and sportsmen and indeed all Canadians,” said Miller. “This motion will end the arbitrary reclassification of firearms and will establish a committee that oversees firearms registration in an open and transparent fashion and that operates with direct civilian oversight.”

For more information, the text of the motion, and to support the M-452, please visit; http://responsiblefirearmsreform.ca/stop-reclassification-confiscation/.

http://larrymiller.ca.koallo.ca/miller-seconds-m-452-firearms-act/

 

[johnny88]

Signed and letter will be going to MP

 

[dave37]

Let's face it, Canada will never be as lax as the US and even in the US gun control is a hot & touchy issue. We will never please everybody even amongst gun owners so I feel Cheryl Gallants efforts are as good or better than anything else on the table right now, if and when another MP suggests something better we can cross that bridge then.

Yup, we can all hope for the promised land of full auto, no restrictions, open and concealed carry without permit, but for now we have to take the gains we can get in this current crisis. If we over reach or are inflexible it will remain the status quo or worse. The history of those who lose what they already have is that they over reached rather than take what was easily taken. Take what we can now, and continue to press for more gains. We ARE NOT going to get everything we want in one fell swoop. It's just not going to happen. Gains are made one step at a time.

We didn't end up in this mess over night, they did it to us one little bit at a time. And now we must take it back, one piece at a time.

 

[Shepb]

Signed
Granted the proposed bill is far from perfect. But right now oversight is essentially RCMP. The proposed committee might still be mostly RCMP, but if we get even one civilian on it, its a step forward.
Evolution vs revolution.
And if the one civilian is John ...

Totally agree, even a small step forward is better than none. Small gains add up to a better direction than the one we have now.

 

[Tyockell18]

Um screw this petition, sign Rob Anders petition running in several forums. This petition is a joke.

 

[TT_270wsm]

Um screw this petition, sign Rob Anders petition running in several forums. This petition is a joke.

2 petitions > 1 petition > 0 petitions. Both support positive change, we need to take every inch they give and demand more. All or nothing stance will yield us nothing. Every gun owner in canada, let alone every GunNutter is not significant enough of a voting base to sway any Canadian party to a majority, let alone lose one. Sure, we could all vote libertarian because they will take on our plight. It was already said though, how many seats would that give them, if any? Not even close to an opposition party, not even a small voice in the house; where does that leave us? Look at this rationally instead of emotionally.

If we are inflexible and demand complete repeal or nothing, immediately, and it's not feasible for any party to provide, they will simply cut their losses, forget about our votes and carry on. We need to take small steps, gain public approval and support and sway the momentum to our side. There's no such thing as a bad petition whose aim is to both reduce firearm owner restriction, and take power away from the RCMP, whose agenda has become quite evident.

 

[Grumpy Wolverine]

2 petitions > 1 petition > 0 petitions. Both support positive change, we need to take every inch they give and demand more. All or nothing stance will yield us nothing. Every gun owner in canada, let alone every GunNutter is not significant enough of a voting base to sway any Canadian party to a majority, let alone lose one. Sure, we could all vote libertarian because they will take on our plight. It was already said though, how many seats would that give them, if any? Not even close to an opposition party, not even a small voice in the house; where does that leave us? Look at this rationally instead of emotionally.

If we are inflexible and demand complete repeal or nothing, immediately, and it's not feasible for any party to provide, they will simply cut their losses, forget about our votes and carry on. We need to take small steps, gain public approval and support and sway the momentum to our side. There's no such thing as a bad petition whose aim is to both reduce firearm owner restriction, and take power away from the RCMP, whose agenda has become quite evident.

Very well said!

 

[humphry76]

BAN C68. That's all

 

[Titan 08]

I've signed the petition, but I have to ask myself. Why does an influential Member of Parliament, a member of
the governing party, have to instigate a petition in order to make her own party listen to her in regards to an
issue that is obviously very important to many of their voters and party faithful.

 

[PSYLNZ]

Considering what just happened with the reclassifications, and that this motion was put forth last October, isn't it time Blaney considered signing off on something like this? Excuse my ignorance of our political system, but how quickly could something like this be passed into law?