Chiappa M1-22

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I hear the GSG STG44 has lots of issues, but what has been the track record for the Chiappa M1 carbine .22lr copy? Most sites say they had extractor issues at first but that it was licked.
 
My Chiappa M1-22 has been amazing through the first 400 rounds. I tore it right down and cleaned it after 300 rounds on day 1, and it was surprisingly clean for 300 rounds. And it functioned flawlessly with all the different ammo used. I am extremely happy with mine.
 
Not heard much about these except the extractor issue.

That is either a good or a bad thing.

I am happy sticking with my M1-10/22 copy until more becomes known about it.
 
rolfyrolf said:
I hear the GSG STG44 has lots of issues, but what has been the track record for the Chiappa M1 carbine .22lr copy? Most sites say they had extractor issues at first but that it was licked.
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More than the ISSC Mk22's?

I wonder if these companies typically have one master design and then adjust it to fit different shaped receivers/stocks when they make a new model, or if they design each gun from scratch
 
The Chiappa M1-22 actually looks like the M-1 Carbine. The Parts look the same as on the M1 Carbine for the most part, and it strips down the same way as the M1 Carbine for the most part. So I would think that they are all completely different designs.
 
bfiles said:
rolfyrolf said:
I hear the GSG STG44 has lots of issues, QUOTE]

Where did you read that??
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I am interested in a STG 44 too so I researched it a bit. They have been out for a while in the UK and the distributor stopped importing them from GSG because of so many warranty returns and lack of support/parts from GSG. There is a thread on Martsar where someone asked John why they dropped them and he gave similar answers. Hopefully GSG is cleaning up their act. If not that does not look good from a German company. I hear that the STG 44 is just their MP5 cosmetically rearranged to look like the Sturmgewehr. See below:

johnone 09:12 AM 09-17-2012
I would like a moment to reply to all the questions regarding the Stg-44 rifles and other firearms produced by that firm....

The reason we are NOT carrying any of the products manufactured by that company is rather simple, their total lack of support.

As you are aware we were the exclusive North American distributor of their products,

when it came time to order spare parts NO support....Orders were never filled.
We ordered simple things like mags, NO replies....
We ordered parts for warranty work, they refused to honor warranty....
We even returned a large number of firearms to correct defects, at our cost, they came back, again at our cost, with the same issues....
In short we repaired all issues experienced by our clients, at our own expense, Marstar covers all warranty issues regardless of the producer....That is our policy

IF you are considering the purchase of any of their products check out the vendors policy on warranty, make certain they have the parts and the technical know how required to repair that firearm....

John
[Reply] [!!]
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rolfyrolf said:
bfiles said:
I am interested in a STG 44 too so I researched it a bit. They have been out for a while in the UK and the distributor stopped importing them from GSG because of so many warranty returns and lack of support/parts from GSG. There is a thread on Martsar where someone asked John why they dropped them and he gave similar answers. Hopefully GSG is cleaning up their act. If not that does not look good from a German company. I hear that the STG 44 is just their MP5 cosmetically rearranged to look like the Sturmgewehr.
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The distributor in the UK was importing the original GSG-5 which was known to have extractor issues which I have been told has been taken care of. We do not have any first hand knowledge of the GSG-522 as it is a prohib in Canada. The STG-44's have hit the market in the United States and should be showing up in other countries soon. As seen by our customer and dealer support of the GSG 1911, German Sport Guns has been fantastic at supporting us with anything needed for the operation of their products. We plan on fully supporting all of GSG's products as they are available in Canada at the same level of service which everyone has come to expect. If there are any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me at any time.

Best regards,
Ryan Patterson
Blue Line Team
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Blue Line said:
rolfyrolf said:
The distributor in the UK was importing the original GSG-5 which was known to have extractor issues which I have been told has been taken care of. We do not have any first hand knowledge of the GSG-522 as it is a prohib in Canada. The STG-44's have hit the market in the United States and should be showing up in other countries soon. As seen by our customer and dealer support of the GSG 1911, German Sport Guns has been fantastic at supporting us with anything needed for the operation of their products. We plan on fully supporting all of GSG's products as they are available in Canada at the same level of service which everyone has come to expect. If there are any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me at any time.

Best regards,
Ryan Patterson
Blue Line Team
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Ryan, you are right, I just checked the comments by the UK magazine that talked about the problems, and it said it was the GSG5, but he was concerned in that GSG told him that the STG44 has the same action as the GSG5. We'll see, as I want one too!
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Found a website for M1 carbine knock offs. It is easy to find. It discusses the good and the bad. Apparently there are a lot of plastic parts, like the sites, trigger housing, etc...

Apparently there are springs that can work their way out in the trigger group and fall out. I think these guns would be good for someone who wants to shoot them a little bit and just have them for an example of the venerable M1 without having a restricted gun on their hands. I may still get it for that reason, same goes for STG-44!
 
I just finished putting another 250 rds through mine for a total of 500 and not a single malfunction.
There is a bit too much plastic on it for my liking but I can get used to that. I have the wood stock and think it looks pretty darn nice.

Did mainly 25 yard paper and my plate rack from 25 to 10 yds. Tons of fun!!:)

Cheers
JeffA
 
I bought mine today, it looks really good. I noticed that the bayonet lug extention is also plastic. The one on the shelf had the butt stock plate screw poke out into the strap slot, but mine out of the box did not have that little imperfection, but I did get two mags with it. I think it is great for the money and a good looker and cheap to shoot.

Do you need the stingers to make it function ok, or is it fine with standard ammo?
 
I often wonder if all the bad reviews about rimfire guns have more to do with ammo....


(Not all of them of course, but quite a few)
 
I posted this in a dealer thread, I will repost here so all that posting doesn't go

to waste...
How to take the Chiappa M1-22 apart.....

You remove this single flat head screw on the barrel band and slide the band and top grib forward....And remove....

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You then angle the barrel and receiver up and slide it forward and it is out.
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Slide the bolt handle back to the little notch and pop it up and slide it forward and down. This takes a little practice, but the whole charging handle lifts out of the bolt and receiver and the guide rod/recoil spring.
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The recoil spring/guide rod than slide out. Check the nut that retains the recoil spring onto the guide rod. When I first took my action out of the stock the nut fell out onto the floor and I had to figure out where the hell it went. It took a while to say the least.:)
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It goes back together the same way, it takes about a minute to take apart with a bit of practice. The trigger group comes off by removing a roll pin from the front and then sliding the whole group backwards.
Cheers..
 
The Chiappa M1-22 that I purchased a few months ago has no done me wrong, I have fired a few hundred rounds through it and so far no problems. The only thing that I have to say about the gun is that the trigger kind of sucks, long hard pull. I haven't played with it yet. If anyone out there has i could use a hand getting it a little bit crisper.
All in All it is a great looking and fun gun to shoot.
 
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