Chilean 1895 Price Check

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I have the opportunity to purchase a really beautiful DWM made Chilean M1895 Long Rifle that matches itself but has a mismatched bolt. It also includes a non matching bayonet. It's chambered in 7x57 and the bore is mint, rifle is in immaculate condition with the original storage grease present. The price is just over $700 is that too much to pay? Thanks in advance!
 
$700 is pretty steep I'd say for a Chilean these days. Very nice rifles but not super desirable.

Check P&S militaria's site as they have quite a few Chileans that they've had for a long time. Most are priced at $400 or so with no takers.
 
I disagree that they aren't desirable.

One thing I noticed in Chilliwack last weekend was that South American Mausers flew off the table when they were up for sale.

OP, if that rifle has an excellent bore and the rest of the rifle is in excellent condition, it's not far above fair value. Many folks here don't have a clue as to the history on those rifles. Many of them have seen a lot of action in the civil wars and local skirmishes with bordering neighbors. They are battle tested and proven capable. They are also amazingly accurate if in excellent condition and the shooter is doing his/her part.

Most of the Chilean Mausers of every model have mismatched bolts because of the way they were used in the field. Peruvian rifles have the same issue. The troopie in the field kept the bolt of the rifle with him while stacking the rifles out of the way. When they went back for their rifle, they got a different one as often as not. In such a situation it would be next to impossible to keep the rifles intact with their original bolts. Headspace wasn't an issue because of the quality of the machining and fitting. It was usually close enough to be in spec.

There are some out there with matching bolts but they are the odd ones out.

I sold a Model 95 Chilean in Chilliwack in excellent condition with a mismatched bolt for $725 and the buyer was just happy to come across one in excellent condition. They usually have a lot of wear. Be careful as to condition. If the bore is frosty, it's to expensive. If the stock has a lot of dings or lacks finish, it's to much.
 
A couple years back I sold a Chilean 95, pretty much mint all matching for $650 on the EE. I think the guy got a pretty good deal. I posted it on the milsurp forum beforehand and a few guys said, "Don't sell it, you will regret it." Turns out they were right.
 
Tinman204 said:
$700 is pretty steep I'd say for a Chilean these days. Very nice rifles but not super desirable.

Check P&S militaria's site as they have quite a few Chileans that they've had for a long time. Most are priced at $400 or so with no takers.
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those at PS Militaria are not 1895 Long rifles...they are 1912 Austrian Made or carbines that were rechambered to .308...1890's original Mauser or DWM Marked are way more Desirable
 
victorio said:
as do i.... the ones at P&S Militaria that are .308 are in fact long rifles...my apologies
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I will add that I was basing my price estimate on the couple of one's at P&S that are in 308. I felt that the OP should maybe compare the one he's looking at to the ones P&S have for sale and maybe make his decision from there.

As for the iffy conversions I know several guys that shoot their conversion rifles but I can't say for sure if that makes them safe or not. I'm sure those with more knowledge will chime in.
 
BlackPowderBurner said:
I've been looking long and hard at those, from my research the conversion process was shall we say a bit iffy. Does anyone know if the ones at P&S are ok?
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Iffy?

The two I bought were rebarreled. I've heard that the chambers were sleeved. Mine weren't. Call Jean and ask.

This isn't a flame, it just seems to me that fewer and fewer people are willing to do their own due diligence. When you find out on your own, you can at least TRUST the information. This thread is a great example. You asked for info on a m95 an were given info on 1912s by two people.

Purchasing a firearm is like making an investment. When investing in anything you really need to make sure you aren't buying a pig in a poke. Everyone reads things differently. When people are given options they usually run amok.
 
bearhunter said:
Iffy?

The two I bought were rebarreled. I've heard that the chambers were sleeved. Mine weren't. Call Jean and ask.

This isn't a flame, it just seems to me that fewer and fewer people are willing to do their own due diligence. When you find out on your own, you can at least TRUST the information. This thread is a great example. You asked for info on a m95 an were given info on 1912s by two people.

Purchasing a firearm is like making an investment. When investing in anything you really need to make sure you aren't buying a pig in a poke. Everyone reads things differently. When people are given options they usually run amok.
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I for one was referring to the 4 1895 Mauser long rifles Jean has for sale actually. The 1912s are nice to I'll have to admit.
 
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To me the 1895 Chilean as well as the Boer Mausers 95 are amazing and sold cheap as people don't know what they have. Buy when you see a nice one. I still have neither...
 
I have an 1895 converted to 7.62 and I have shot it, not a problem.
Had the head spacing checked when I first got it.

She is actually a little rough looking in places and has been through a war or two.
 
bearhunter said:
Most of the Chilean Mausers of every model have mismatched bolts because of the way they were used in the field. Peruvian rifles have the same issue. The troopie in the field kept the bolt of the rifle with him while stacking the rifles out of the way. When they went back for their rifle, they got a different one as often as not. In such a situation it would be next to impossible to keep the rifles intact with their original bolts. Headspace wasn't an issue because of the quality of the machining and fitting. It was usually close enough to be in spec.

There are some out there with matching bolts but they are the odd ones out.
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For the Peruvian Mausers they are mismatched because of importation, it had nothing to do with soldiers in the field. The bolts were kept separate in storage and when the rifles were imported no effort was made to match the proper bolts to the rifles. I suspect the Chilean Mausers are the same way, as is pretty much every mismatched bolt rifle in existence.
 
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