I can`t seem to find solid info either way. Were the Chilean 1912 carbines 7.62 mm conversion rebarreled, or that chamber reamed out and insert soldered in? I know the 1895 conversions were the soldered in version.
Chilean 1912 Carbine conversion to 7.62?
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I don't know how they were made, but they sure shoot well. It's a shame they weren't left in their original cartridge though. I can see why they were converted, lack of available quantities of ammunition and Nato/UN compliance. The 7.65x53 case is very good and holds a tad more powder than the 7.62x51.
Now you've got me curious and I will have to check mine out.
Now you've got me curious and I will have to check mine out.
Does yours have a 2 groove barrel? Any markings on the barrel?
I had read this too. Conversion of a .30-06 barrel to .308/7.62 is feasible. Bore is the same. All you need to do is to shorten the barrel at the breech end, re-thread, and ream out a 7.62 chamber.
The Italians did this when converting their Garands to 7.62. The .30-06 barrel was shortened approx 1/2 inch and re-threaded/re-chambered. The stock, op rod and rear handguard were shortened to match. They worked out very successfully.
It isn't feasible to drill out and re-line an 8mm barrel for 7.62 as there isn't enough metal stock in the original barrel.
Thanks Mig25. I just assumed they used the 7.65x53 like so many of their neighbors. That's what you get for not checking. I should have known better, I have one of their 7x57 Mod 95 Mausers in 7x57. They are fine rifles. From what I can find, they also fielded the 30-06 cartridge.
I checked out my l912 long rifle and there is no insert in the chamber and it's to long to have been an 03a3 barrel. It also has 4 grooves.
I checked out my l912 long rifle and there is no insert in the chamber and it's to long to have been an 03a3 barrel. It also has 4 grooves.
In the book, "Mauser Military Rifles of the World" by "Robert W. D. Ball" Page 80 bottom left side. He mentions the long rifles were converted to 7.62 NATO by re-barreling them with 60cm barrels.
My example has a two groove barrel and the exterior finish is very thin, with lots of milling marks. My rifle is marked with the following:
My example has a two groove barrel and the exterior finish is very thin, with lots of milling marks. My rifle is marked with the following:
MODELO 191261
NATO
NATO
60cm is very close to what a bobbed and re-chambered 24 inch 03A3 barrel would be. The circular milling marks are also characteristic of the 03A3 wartime 2 groove barrels. If you pulled the barrel out of the stock, you would most likely find various letter and number stampings which were applied to the 03A3 barrels during production/inspection.
Mine is a complete mixmaster. It has a standard stepped 29 inch Mauser type barrel with, now that I look at it in the light, 5 groove barrel.
The receiver is blued, rather than in the white, like the 7x57 (I forgot I actually had it). It is also stamped 7.62 over N on the rear receiver bridge. To bad it's missing the cleaning rod.
I had forgotten about the VG+ 1012 rifles that JP was offering in 7x57. They are very nice, matching numbers and complete.
The receiver is blued, rather than in the white, like the 7x57 (I forgot I actually had it). It is also stamped 7.62 over N on the rear receiver bridge. To bad it's missing the cleaning rod.
I had forgotten about the VG+ 1012 rifles that JP was offering in 7x57. They are very nice, matching numbers and complete.
jp?
Jean Plamondon, he is a member on CGN. A lot of people here buy from him. He doesn't seem to be one of the registered dealers. He own P&S Guns and Militaria. He had both the carbine and rifle length versions. Because of my aging eyes, I can't focus both the rear sight and the fore sight as well as the target with tangent sights on standard length 98s. I do just fine with the 29in barreled versions though. I sold the standard (carbine) rifle shortly after buying it from Tradex. It was sold as VG but I would have rated it as Good + on the exterior and VG+ on the interior so I guess the assessment was fair.
The 29in barreled 1912, came from Tradex as well. Looked at the tag. It was sold as being in the same condition as the standard length. It was much better inside and out. Far better deal.
A friend of mine, shot the standard length version and it shot very well. Now I wish I had looked at it a little closer.
The 29in barreled 1912, came from Tradex as well. Looked at the tag. It was sold as being in the same condition as the standard length. It was much better inside and out. Far better deal.
A friend of mine, shot the standard length version and it shot very well. Now I wish I had looked at it a little closer.
