Chinese mauser

LePepper

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Hey CGN’ers

I was offered a non matching chinese mauser(Chiang Kai-shek rifle) it’s in rough shape and missing the rod but neither me or owner knows the market value can any fine gentleman give me a idea of its worth? Barrel is almost at end of life and all the blueing is badly buffed off.

Thanks
 
Value depends on how bad you want or need one to fill a collection.

I sold two last year, but they were in better shape than the rifle you describe. I have yet to see one with matching numbers

You need to be careful with those, they were chambered for three different cartridges. 6.7x57, which used .277 bullets, 7.7 Jap and mostly 8x57. The 7.92 rifles have .318 bores.

If the rifle you're looking at is a Type 24, made in China, depending on which arsenal it's from, it's likely chambered in 8x57 and the barrel tenons are interchangeable with just about any K98 type rifle. When the Japanese set up their factory in Manchuria, it was on modified Chinese equipment which they produced rifles for their 7.7 jap and later switched over to making Arisaka rifles in 8x57 to utilize the captured Chinese ammo and the manufacturing equipment.

The 6.7 rifles are easily spotted and relatively rare. It was a proprietary cartridge for Nationalist China and they were all made in Germany and bore the Mauser crest on their receiver rings.

The two rifles I sold last year were about 80% overall. I asked for an received $700 for each of them, but only because they were in decent condition.

Back in the day, Chiang Kai Shek Mausers sold for $15, in the condition you describe and were graded as FAIR ONLY. Lots of them were stripped to their basic components and turned into lovely sporters.

The type 24 rifles are very well made and after the initial German orders, they were made in China, on German supplied equipment, under German supervision.

I would estimate the value of the rifle you describe to be anywhere from $250 to ????
 
I would suggest BH’s prices are on the low end. There is a lot of movement inChinese Rifles lately north of $1000, even for beat up rifles, so plus minus that.

Approx 2 years ago i sold a beat to crap one for $700 or 750, that guys were fighting over, calling me names because i wouldn’t sell it to them.
 
I find it hard to believe they have much value, every example that I have seen has been in rough shape to put it mildly.
 
back in the day at $20. each. (1993) no one wanted them, as they were all trash. Israeli ones were selling for$125. in good to excellent condition.
 
I find it hard to believe they have much value, every example that I have seen has been in rough shape to put it mildly.

The rifles you are referring to were from the batch that mostly stayed in Canada. Most, not all of the VG or better grade examples went to the US, where they could get better money for them.

There was a lot of controversy at the time whether the rifles actually came out of Viet Nam. The Chinese gave thousands of variations of Mauser rifles to the NVA. There were also lots of different Mausers and other firearms captured from the French and Japanese. This controversy was all started because the rifles came into Canada, after going though the UK, before being allowed into the US. A crude but effective way to sanitize their origin.

About 15% of the rifles were in 70% or better condition. The people from Century International in the US were the first ones allowed to pick over the pallets of rifles.

Of course, they took most of the best rifles, all 75% or better.

I came on the scene with Alan Lever and we, along with a few others were allowed in to pick through a half dozen pallets of rifles that were graded anywhere from 60% and up.

To purchase these rifles, the dealers had to buy at least 100 rifles. Mr Lever wasn't keen on these Chinese rifles at the time, simply because there were a lot of other Mausers of all types and grades available in the International Firearms warehouse. Sooo, I purchased the required 100 rifles and made a deal with Anthony, the warehouse manager, who had some leeway in these things.

I convinced him to sell me 20 rifles that were in appx 75% condition if I took 80 serviceable but Fair only grade rifles from him and purchase another 50 bolts and receivers.

There were hundreds of wooden crates/pallets, full of receivers, bolts, stocks, trigger guards, stock ferrules and butt plates. Price on these worked out to 50 cents a pound. Cheap even 40 years ago.

I used those receivers and bolts to build several very presentable custom rifles. Sold off about half of them over the next few years and most of the rifles, about 30 years later.

It's only recently that the Chinese made rifles have become "collectible" in a real term. Not sure why, every single one of them saw as much or more real action than most RC 98s.

Maybe because the Chinese wars were never in the public eye, in North America or Europe??? Just like the South American 98 types, its only been about 10+ years that people realize how well made and collectible those lovely rifles are. Believe me, we mostly see the best of them here. 75% of those South American 98 type and other Mausers were ridden hard and put away wet but still saw extensive service way past the time they should have been FTRed or smelted down for the scrap metal they had become from abuse.
 
back in the day at $20. each. (1993) no one wanted them, as they were all trash. Israeli ones were selling for$125. in good to excellent condition.

They were still available in 93 but came into Canada around 1980. They were offered for sale, but other than the US, there were very few takers. Main reason being that what was left was barely serviceable. They were still being sold at a profit, but the writing was already on the wall with BIll C68 in the offing and International just wanted them all gone ASAP, rather than go through the cost and effort to ship them to the US. I heard a lot of the parts crates went straight to the smelters.

I purchased 20 complete rifles in 75% condition for $12 each, 80, Fair but working/shootable rifles for $4 each, 50 receivers/bolts for $2 each in the spring of 1981.
 
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