Choate Ultimate sniper stock

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Ok ok I know... I can afford something better. Well here's a short back ground. Always had guns in the family, finally as an adult decided to get into a little long distance. Decided to pick up a Rem .223 sps varmint to start playing around with (and hunt a little). I love the rifle it shoots great. I have a Bushnell 3200 5x15x40 Tac on it with a Allen gunworks 20moa base Burris tacticle rings and a harris 6x9 brm pod. The only garbage thing on this rifle is the stock. It's plastic with no bedding and flexes so much I can't even put much pressure on the comb without twisting the whole thing before my shot.

Now thats thats out, whats up with the Choate stocks. I read a lot of good and bad. I enjoy customizing things myself so the rough unfinished look doesn't bother me. I plan to bed it as well as make a few grip adjustments ect.

I guess my rant comes down to 3 simple questions..lol

1. For under 200.00$ is this a total waste of money or something that with some time and patience can be made into a decent shooter?

2. With the flat bottom forearm will i have troubles mounting my harris?
do i need one of these --> http://www.uws.com/HARRISBIPODS/HB6A.html

3. It has an "Anschutz T-type rail on the forearm, can anyone tell me what size that would be if I need an adapter? (3/8 American or 3/8 European)

Thanks for the help.

Noobie. :wave:

Choate info ---> http://www.riflestock.com/catalog_p...ductCode=34&ProductSubCodeID=201&NewProduct=0

and some more ---> http://www.combatstocks.com/instructions/choate_ultimate_sniper_features.cfm
 
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Nogan,

1. Not sure, all I can say is that it doesn't get many points from me in the looks deptartment!
2. & 3. I have the same Anschutz rail on my stock, and my rifle came with that adapter for the very purpose of installing a Harris bipod (althought I went with a Parker Hale one, so I don't even use that adapter). This means you'll need it, unless the Choate already comes with said adapter.

Hope this helps a bit.
 
The Choate comes with a little slide that will accept a Harris bipod.
The Choate Ultimate Sniper is a heavy, blocky, awkward stock, with inferior ergonomics. It is very "busy" with all sorts of "features" that really contribute little. Works best off bags or a bipod, not a good choice for other positions.
It has an aluminum bedding block, you could skim coat your action into it.
Generally barrelled actions dropped into a Choate shoot quite well. If you can get one cheap enough, you might try one.
The Ultimate Varmint is probably a better stock.
You must not be in Canada if you are able to buy a new Ultimate Sniper for under $200.
I think that Choate could have come up with a superior stock, if a bit more thought had been put into the design.
 
I think "too much thought" was put in the design and not enough field work. It does have a bulky grip and many of the features don't really do much/get in the way.

however, I am enjoying using it because it is heavy and bulky. I chose this stock for my 1 mile/223 quest. The shape mimics my BR stocks very nicely and the extra weight is a bonus. Has worked wonderfully.

I find it a very nice stock for shooting prone off bags and the high cheek piece ideal for elevated scope setup I use.

I am not a bipod shooter but keep threatening to learn. The attachment for the rail is the pits. I ended up bolting the attachement pin directly to the stock. Way more stable and the bipod mount doesn't rock.

With a pod lock, this is very solid - except for the wobbly legs. I would expect very good results with it in the future.

Jerry
 
I have the ultimate varmint stock for my 10FP and find that, yes - it is heavy but shooting off a bench etc that isn't an issue. A bipod fits well and has no attachment problems. Some people find the pistol grip too large but for me - white guy medium sorta hands - it works well but a smaller frame/female person may have an issue with it. I got mine from Wolverine and think it is a huge improvement over the factory stock the rifle came with.
 
I had a Choate Varmint stock on a 10fp. It's heavy but very stiff and comfortable. It would be too heavy for bush bashing, but for range work or hunting from a stationary hide it works great.
 
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I've had one for years on an old Savage 110 in.243. It's not for everyone, looks or ergonomics wise. I find it's great as a bench gun, but you won't be marching around in the bush with it (it's heavy). If you want to buy an aftermarket stock, this is not a bad choice. You will not be out alot of money to try it, and if you don't like it, chalk it to education costs and re-sell it. I've bought lots of stuff that didn't quite work out the way I wanted, but always call these my education taxes :)
 
Wow.... Thanks for all the great input. I really appreciate it. I guess I'll just have to try one out now.

I'll post some pics when I get it all done.

Thanks again :)
 
I would suggest that you look for the Choate Varmit stock instead. The Sniper stock is only metal bedded in the action area wereas the varmit is molded around a metal frame all the way along. I find that the sniper stock has a tendency to twist, if you will were the varmit, due to the full length metal liner seems to be more solid and not a great deal heavier.
Check with P & D or Milarm for this stock.

Scott
 
Milarm in Edmonton has them. They were at one time the "exclusive" importer for Choate, but now everybody seems to have their stocks so who knows.

I ordered an Ultimate Sniper stock from them & had it at my door in less than 2 weeks. I have no issues with the stock, but if I order another Choate stock it will be the Varmint model. I have found no benefit at all to the angled fore-end of the Ultimate Sniper, and in fact I think that the flat fore-end of the Varmint would be way more practical.

Just so you know, the Ultimate Sniper stock should come with; An adapter for Harris bipods, a butt-pad/spacer assembly, and replacement action screws (the standard Savage screws aren't long enough).

Cheers.

Tim
 
i'll sell you my Choate Varmint off my savage..i want a bell & Carlson stock... lots of people hate the Choate but if you're keeping it real they are actually not a bad stock if you're just shooting off a bench..i like the weight makes shooting hundreds of rounds no sweat...the grip is a bit fat but can be trimmed...as for skim bedding them it becomes tricky because the epoxy doesn't stick very well to the plastic you need to drill little holes to allow it something to adhere to but otherwise they are a huge improvement over the factory peice of crap.
 
I have one as well and I like it a lot. People at the range always come by and have a closer look. They say it looks nice but they're probably just trying to be nice :)
It was a good improvement over my original VTR stock, great for shooting off the bench using bags or a bipod. Even if I had the money, I don't think I'd buy the more expensive HS Prescision stocks as I'm already comfortable with this one. Pretty accurate too!
 
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