CIL Copper Tip Expanding or Remington Bronze Point? How can you tell?

[Fox]

I have a bunch of loose copper coloured tipped bullets, 0.311 and 0.308. I assumed Bronze point until I learned about the copper tip expanding. Since these are in Ontario I bet they are CIL but is there any way to figure it out? Apparently the Bronze point blew up like a ballistic tip but the Copper Tip were more controlled.

I figure you guys would know, ha ha.

Thanks

 

[Cocked&Locked]

Pictures needed if you want help.

 

[Fox]

Pictures needed if you want help.

0.308in 180gr

 

[bcsteve]

Remington Bronze Point were more gold colour.

 

[Arcosdad]

Not to be pedantic but it's CPE not CTE

 

[Fox]

Not to be pedantic but it's CPE not CTE
View attachment 991953

Never saw it before, ha ha, just did some googling and thought I saw Copper Tip Expanding, but ya, Copper Point Expanding is what I read after the fact.

 

[Arcosdad]

It was a great bullet back in the day. The other famous CIL bullet was the KKSP....Kling Kore Soft Point. For 303 I think it was 215 gr. That's what we carried in bear country. I just traded my last box a couple years ago.

 

[Fox]

It was a great bullet back in the day. The other famous CIL bullet was the KKSP....Kling Kore Soft Point. For 303 I think it was 215 gr. That's what we carried in bear country. I just traded my last box a couple years ago.

I ran in to a 100+ 170gr KKSP for the 3030, built up a load and loaded up a bunch, then with the same group of random bullets that these CPE bullets came in I found a bunch more 170gr KKSP, sweet, can load up another box or two, ha ha.

 

[jamesharrison]

Look at the bottom of the bullets. Is there an indent [recessed section]?

 

[Fox]

Look at the bottom of the bullets. Is there an indent [recessed section]?

No, perfectly flat base.

 

[jamesharrison]

The old red box R-P Bronze Point bullets I have [in .308 & ".303", actually 0.3105"] all have a recessed section in their base. And, they also have 2 cannellures, 1 quite thick & wide, the other more like a line [think Speer Mag-Tip or early Grand Slam or Hornady .308" 180 gr.].

 

[Longwalker]

The original CIL CPE bullets are copper tipped, the Remington copycats are bronze. You can see the colour difference just by looking at them. Remington never made this type of bullet for the .303 as far as I know.

 

[Fox]

The original CIL CPE bullets are copper tipped, the Remington copycats are bronze. You can see the colour difference just by looking at them. Remington never made this type of bullet for the .303 as far as I know.

So these would be the CIL ones then most likely.