Classical Shotgun Slings?

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So there is this great "Gun Engraving" thread going with great examples of the artistic work.

And that made me wonder about slings. What kind of slings were used historically with shotguns or combination guns like Drillings?

What material? If leather, what kind of leather? How was it waterproofed?

What attachment system?

What kind of decoration?

And I am talking classical hunting shotguns ... around 100 years old ...... not combat shotguns.

If anybody owns an example .... please post picts!!!
 
I dont own any but there is a leather guy in chatham that does custom leather gun belts and holsters. Ive heard he has done some amazing slings. His prices are not cheap but his work is very well done. He does embossed tooling or Sheriday & Floral leather carving.
 
Well, for saying nice things about the engraving thread, I feel compelled to take on your challenge.

Shooting sports and hunting methods varied greatly from country to country in the mid- to late-19th century, as they do today. In the 1860s in Britain, game was primarily walked up, and the driven shoot was only just starting to develop. British shooters did not use slings, and no guns had sling swivels or any mode of attachment for them. I am loathed to give such a sweeping statement, as with Victorian gunmaking, anything is possible. But I have yet to encounter an early breech-loader, pinfire or centrefire, made by or for the British market that has sling swivels, and I’ll maintain this opinion until proven otherwise.

Over on the continent, things were very different. French, Belgian, German, and Austrian shooters also walked up their game birds but often employed slings that, to my knowledge, were made of leather. Thus continental guns from this period are usually fitted with sling swivels. The sling attachment is non-detachable as far as the gun is concerned, and the leather sling would pass through the iron loop and have a roller-fitted buckle of the type you see on gun cases. There is also a curious plug-type attachment on some butts, which I’m guessing would fit into a slit cut into the leather. Perhaps such a sling is easier to remove or adjust in length – I don’t know.

Here is a vintage continental sling demonstrating the buckles. I don’t know the age, but as the leather is in good shape, I’m guessing the 20th century.

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Here are the two styles of attachment mentioned above. The first is on a 12-bore Lefaucheux-type pinfire sporting gun by Châlet, Père et Fils of St. Étienne, France, serial number 10, dating from around 1860. It only has part of the swivel base, and the actual belt loops are missing. Presumably, a previous owner did not use a sling and discarded them.

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The other attachment style is on a 16-bore Colleye System pinfire sporting gun signed August Gottlieb Schüler of Suhl, Germany, but made by Maximilien Nicolas Colleye of Liège, Belgium. It too dates from around 1860. The barrels still have the full swivel, and the butt has the curiously rounded plug.

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Let’s see what else turns up. With the beautiful work done on drillings, there must be some high-quality swivels out there.
 
Pinfire, thanks for sharing …. that was very very interesting.

I tried to do a bit of online research about historical shotgun slings, but it seems there is not much information out there. And maybe that is just the nature of things … a sling wears out over time … gets thrown out and replaced … but the gun lives on.

I just have this feeling …. that slings weren’t just plain slings … but highly decorated pieces of art as well. I just find it hard to find actual examples from the time ….

If so much work and effort went into engraving those guns … I am just imagining that accessories like slings would have to match that sort of craftsmanship and artistic work to some extend.

And your "curiously rounded plug" on the Schüler/Colleye … woww …. Now that is interesting. Would love to see the sling that went with that attachment system.

Somehow I am imagining an early version of a quick detach sling system …

And I am imagining my grandfather …. he is preparing for the next day’s hunt … his sling just broke … and he is taking one of his button trouser suspenders apart and to fabricate a temporary makeshift sling for his drilling …. a drilling with that "curiously rounded plug" …

Again, thanks for sharing Pinfire.
 
All the German guns I own have sling swivels and I have come to really appreciate them. They come in handy on my drilling and my bockbuschflinte guns for general carry while hunting. I like the ones on my Nimrod for those times I have to take charge of one of my dogs and I can quickly sling it rather than setting it down on the ground or in a spot where it could get knocked over and stepped on. All are set up for 3/4" and are not quick release.
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I cant recall where I got this one, but I use it a alot. It is embossed with the word "Germany" and has a pin/rivet affair on one end. Traditional adjustable buckle on the other.
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I ordered this one from "Jeff's Outfitters" when I got my drilling case. Its a nice sling and I use it on my drilling when needed.
 
Speaking of putting a sling on a shotgun without swivels/studs.

A number of a years, I'd came across a guy who had (what I think) a pretty idea. The guy a nice old SxS, to hold the sling in the front, he had something like this (made out of kydex and leather lined) with a sling stud

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And a harness for the buttstock
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