Club de Tir récréatif de Valcartier Long Range rifle match

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Club de Tir récréatif de Valcartier Long Range rifle match

This match was a last minute decision for me, my original plan was to drive out to Borden for the ORA PR match, but it got cancelled. So I found this little match held by the Club de Tir Récréatif de Valcartier. This club's matches are held on the ranges of the Valcartier Base north of Quebec City.

Not much info was available on their website other than the fact that the targets would be mostly steel plates and that they would range from 200m to 1400m. Shooters would be classified according to the caliber they shoot.

Left MTL at 4:45 and got to the range at 8:00 just in time for the short shooters briefing.

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There were 12 shooters. 6 in .308 class and 6 in .338 class ( 1x 338 Lapua, 2x 300 Ultra Mag, 1x 6.5x47, 1x 6mm SLR and 1x 6mm Creedmoor), shooters in each class were assigned a competitor number.

Once the briefing is done, we all setup side by side on the shooting line and the match begins. When your number's called up, you have 30 seconds to hit the drsignated target, if a second shot is required, you have 15 seconds to make that one.

Cold bore shot was at a big sheet of paper with a bunch of 1 inch dots. Distance191m.
Shooter closest to the center of the his dot gets 30 pts, next closest gets 27 pts and so on. Only one shot taken at that target.

This was the only paper target of the match, every other target was steel, you get the maximum 5 points for a first round hit and 2 points if you hit on the follow up.

Second target was a 10 inches plate at UKD, no range finders allowed for this one so it was a milling exercise. First lesson learned, I have to work on my milling skills.

For every other target following this one we were given the ranges in both meters and yards. Target size varied between 8x8 to full IPSC for the long shots. In total there were 10 targets for the match. So a maximum of 20 rounds, which at first might seem kind of low to justify driving 3 hours but when you think about it, it's not. I ended up learning a lot more out of those 20 shots than I would have shooting a 60 rds PR match. Each new target you have to switch you body position slightly, redial your scope, gauge the wind etc... Each time there's the possibility of messing up and of learning something new. This is a great format, the root of Practical rifle shooting and a great training for hunters because the emphasis is on the first shot, which is always the most important under field conditions.

The match itself went quickly and we were done at about 12:30 and that where the big bonus kicked in. We had all afternoon to play on this wonderfull range. How often do you get an afternoon of free shooting, on a 1400+ meters range full of steel target? For a Quebec shooter where most ranges are under 200 yds, this was priceless. Luckilly I had show up prepare and brought lotsa ammo and the 6mm Creedmoor got a good work out.

The CTRV will be holding another one of these matches on the 26th of October for those who would be interested in trying their hand at some long range stuff. It will be on a different range which is even longer and they would gladly add a .50 cal class if anyone wanted to sign up for it.

Their website is: http://ctrval.########.ca/ and is probably the best place to get information on their match schedule


P.
 
This is fantastic! Very well done!

Are they open having a PRS style match with some barricades and positional shooting? You could easily grow this into the best tactical match in Canada and bring PRS North of the border.
 
K,

This is a small club, with limited ressources and limited experience in running matches, I believe this was the second LR rifle match they ever held. They did ask us for ideas that we could have to make these matches better which leads me to believe that yes, they would be open to adding some variety in their format.

They have acces to enough ranges on the base to hold a world class PRS match, what they don't have is the manpower, the financial resources or the experience to run such a match. That's where we have to come in and help if we want to make this happen. This is why I wrote this post, we have to show our support and show up in bigger numbers for the next match to let them know they are on the right track.

I'll get in touch with them and see what kind of help they need for the October match and do my best to help.

I think I messed up on the date though because the 26th is a monday, so the match will likelly be on the 24 th.

Paul Barrette
1989 IPSC Canada National Champion
 
Look good, I wish it would be easy to join the club there, If my French was OK, I think it's only available to join from April to March only.
 
K,

This is a small club, with limited ressources and limited experience in running matches, I believe this was the second LR rifle match they ever held. They did ask us for ideas that we could have to make these matches better which leads me to believe that yes, they would be open to adding some variety in their format.

They have acces to enough ranges on the base to hold a world class PRS match, what they don't have is the manpower, the financial resources or the experience to run such a match. That's where we have to come in and help if we want to make this happen. This is why I wrote this post, we have to show our support and show up in bigger numbers for the next match to let them know they are on the right track.

I'll get in touch with them and see what kind of help they need for the October match and do my best to help.

I think I messed up on the date though because the 26th is a monday, so the match will likelly be on the 24 th.

Paul Barrette
1989 IPSC Canada National Champion

The first big questions that people are going to have is what is involved in bringing firearms of different classes into PQ with the whole registry situation still going on there? Many outside of PQ will not be up to speed on that situation...

We can definitely help them ramp this up. Simply adding some positional shooting would be good. Some standing, some kneeling and some barricade shooting.

Here are some vids that show some examples"

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Barricades do not have to be expensive. All of my training barricades were made from skids I got from the industrial area near work. Barricades don't need to even be super sturdy either. You are trying to simulate real life. In real life vegetation and urban obstacles usually prevent you from going prone, so you use what's around you, and that stuff is often not sturdy. There are probably things around the club already that can be used.

I don't know if the misses will allow me to go in October since it's right after the GAP Grind (Oct. 16-18), and that is going to be at least a 5 day trip. But, I am definitely interested in helping make this happen.

Edit: I have a preliminary manual for this match that I can forward to them. Contact me with an e-mail addy and I can send it to you/them.
 
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The first big questions that people are going to have is what is involved in bringing firearms of different classes into PQ with the whole registry situation still going on there? Many outside of PQ will not be up to speed on that situation...

We can definitely help them ramp this up. Simply adding some positional shooting would be good. Some standing, some kneeling and some barricade shooting.

Barricades do not have to be expensive. All of my training barricades were made from skids I got from the industrial area near work. Barricades don't need to even be super sturdy either. You are trying to simulate real life. In real life vegetation and urban obstacles usually prevent you from going prone, so you use what's around you, and that stuff is often not sturdy. There are probably things around the club already that can be used.

I don't know if the misses will allow me to go in October since it's right after the GAP Grind (Oct. 16-18), and that is going to be at least a 5 day trip. But, I am definitely interested in helping make this happen.

K, didn't you have plans for a barricade that had a variety of ports cut into it? Something that could be made easily from one 4x8 sheet?
 
The V-Tac barricade. That was an idea for square range matches, to be used with a line of shooters. My idea is to add wheels that work when you tip the barricade over, so that the barricade could easily be moved between shooting mounds, and used as an equipment cart at the same time to be efficient.

With the type of range they have access to, you can run a proper tac match and have competitors shoot the stage one at a time, with multiple stages going at once. In this case its better to make use of unique props because the idea is for things to always be different (as they are in real life).
 
KND, it is a military club and they have a civilian/military personel ratio that must be maintained so that's why it is hard to join.

K, there's no paperwork involved in bringing non-restricted firearms and for restricted I guess it would only be a matter of getting a transport permit. They also have CQB matches so bringing in restricted on the ranges must be simple.

I'll PM you my e-mail, I'd like to read the stuff you've written, we may as well all work in the same direction if we want this to happen on our side of the border.

Crouchy, they did advertise a .223 class but no one showed up with that caliber.

P.
 
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