Colt Gold Cup or M and P .45 ?

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I know, I know I am going to get bashed for making such a comparison. Apparently 2 VERY different guns for 2 different purposes: One a respectable 1911 target gun and one a polymer service pistol. But, please bear with me a moment:

1) I have several handguns, none of them being .45 ACP.
2) I want a .45 ACP
3) I only want to get one handgun in that caliber
4) Being in Canada, I strictly use my handguns target shooting at an official gun range
5) I appreciate precision
6) The more expensive 1911 Colt seems to fit the bill much more
BUT
7) The M and P is much easier to dissassemble and therefore clean so it might see more range time
8) It is less expensive
9) So I could have more money for ammo or another gun...

So what do you guys say ?

Again sorry for the more sensitive souls who will have been shocked by such an awkward comparison.

Thanks for your patience and answers

Gilbert
 
I own many 45acp, and deep down I feel that the 1911 is the TRUE 45. I have Sigs, Kimbers, Colts, STi's, etc...

The only 1911 I don't have is the Gold Cup, but will eventually add one

If you are worried about cost of ammo, 45acp is not the way to go. get a M&P9

If you only want one 45, get the Gold Cup
 
Any time I ventured away from the 1911 platform for a pistol in .45ACP I've always quickly regretted it.

So, hence my vote going towards the Colt. ;)

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Thanks guys for your opinions. I have to say that .45 acp appear more appropriate in a good 1911 to me too.
I guess the Colt it will be...

Thanks

Gilbert
 
I would agree with the idea that you should get a 1911 if you are only going to have one .45 Auto pistol. The only thing that would sway it in my mind is if you really like the plastic guns over steel frames. Then I can see getting the M&P and being very happy with it. I have the 1911 and the M&P and enjoy them both, but they are so different it really isn't a head to head comparison.


Mark
 
1911's are very easy to dissaseemble and clean. Even a detail strip is easy and takes only a few minutes. there's a reason it's a classic. I own 3 Colt 1911's currently including a Gold Cup and all are fantastic shooter's and very well made. Zillions of aftermarket parts if you like to change things around. I've always reloaded and the 45 ACP is a great round and very versatile.
 
If you're only getting one pistol in .45, and precision is what you're after, then a 1911 is the answer. For a well-made, precise 1911 that's around the same price as a Gold Cup I'd really be tempted by an STI Rangemaster.
 
You're worried about disassembly of a 1911 making you unwilling to get it dirty???

#### gun (yes you've proved the damn thing already)
Put on safe - to lock the slide, making the next bit easier.
Turn bushing to free recoil spring plug
Take off safe
Retract slide to take down position
Remove slide stop
Remove slide
Remove recoil spring and guide rod
Remove bushing
Remove barrel

It took me longer to type that than it takes me to DO it.

And you have the pleasure of owning a real target pistol rather than an injection molded duty gun with a rubbish trigger, poor balance, and not nearly enough weight to it.

The Good Cups are nice. I have the current production Series 70 National Match and I've not felt the urge to tweak a single thing on it.
 
Or you could get a P220. Every bit as accurate as the 1911. Takedown on it? Lock slide back, rotate takedown lever 90 degrees, release slide and remove. Done.

Flame away, but as much as I love Colts in general, I still prefer the Sig P220 to the 1911.
 
Twisted Canuck said:
Or you could get a P220. Every bit as accurate as the 1911. Takedown on it? Lock slide back, rotate takedown lever 90 degrees, release slide and remove. Done.

Flame away, but as much as I love Colts in general, I still prefer the Sig P220 to the 1911.
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I agree about the 220. It's the only gun I ever bought twice. However, if the OP wants ONLY one .45, the 1911 should be the one. 1911 and .45 ACP is like bacon and eggs.
 
Got a SiG 220 match elite. Big heavy gun and accurate as anything I've ever put 45 through. Love it, and I'm not a SiG fan in general.

But as the man above says - for only 1 45, it has to be 1911 - the pistol that the round was designed for.

I suppose you could do both and get a SiG 1911..... a 1911 that looks like a SiG is a bit too avant garde for me, though lol
 
You guys have convinced me. A 1911 it will be. Now the shopping for « the one». I had my heart set on a Colt as it sounds like: If it is going to be «the» .45 of my collection it has to be a 1911 and to be true to the roots it also has to be a Colt. Also I find the Gold Cup very attractive. I prefer the blued version but as only the stainless has a beaver tail, I guess I'd better stick with the stainless.

Gilbert
 
Also if I may: What do you guys think of the Colt Wiley Clap government. It is blued and has a Beaver Tail. Will it be as accurate as a Gold Cup ? It is a new 70 series and the gold cup is a 80 series.
 
I have owned 3 x 1911's 45ACP (Colt, SAM and Norinco). The series 70 type of firing system was the easiest to clean, but the 80 is still pretty straight forward - just watch some series 80 complete disassembly videos in youtube. The 5" barrel has the least muzzle flip compared to my SAM 1911 commander, but both are accurate pistols.

I wanted to also vary my .45 ACP cal pistols so I also picked up recently an M&P 45 but I haven't fired it yet, dry fired I did many times. The trigger reset and feel is not as good as an 1911.
M&P 45 is well built, don't be dissuaded by polymer framed pistols. The slide on the M&P 45 has a good heft to it, which will make recoil not big of a problem.

Keep in mind too that the M&P 45 is a double stack, holds 10 rounds versus 7+1, but for target shooting not really a negative.

That is all the input that I can provide for now.
 
Gillis2 said:
Also if I may: What do you guys think of the Colt Wiley Clap government. It is blued and has a Beaver Tail. Will it be as accurate as a Gold Cup ? It is a new 70 series and the gold cup is a 80 series.
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I can't comment on the Clap - never had it (not my style)

I certainly noted a big difference in fit between my national match and a plain government model, which was disappointing considering the gov still sets you back almost $1400

You shoot 2 handed, I'm guessing? If so you probably DO want the beaver tail.

Have you browsed the various offerings on the Colt site?

Arms East would be the best bet for someone to contact about ordering - they bring Colts in fairly regular

I've never heard of any one who went out of their way to buy an 80 series gun, but they aren't a bit deal and if you want there's a $10 shim available to replace the Rube Goldberg lever system, then you pop the plunger out of the slide and no more FP block. I did that with my Remington. Didn't do a whole lot for the trigger, mind you.
 
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