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Hello all,

Hoping some of you can help me with the value of a Colt SAA. Received a line this morning on 3rd Gen, recent production, 4.75”, .357mag, Blue/Case Hardened. Gun is immaculate, looks NIB, cylinder never turned according to the owner. He’s asking just over $2k, which if I recall was the new price 4-5 years ago.

I would prefer a .45LC in 5.5”, but if the price is right I may jump on it. I’m also already set-up to load .38/.357, so that’s a plus.

Thanks,
 
North of $2K is probably right for a 45LC or 44-40 with nice grips... but .357 is just settling. I'd guess at $1600-$1700... maybe + another $100 if it has some outstanding pearl or staghorn grips.
 
Third generation & recent production Colt SAA's in 45 Colt does not command C$2000.00. Especially used. Immaculate perhaps, but new-in-the-box (NIB) is not what you are describing. A used 3rd generation Colt SAA immaculate revolver is worth maybe, $1800.00.

BTW, there never was a 45 short Colt, conversely, there never was a 45 long Colt. Colt never, ever, chambered their revolutionary single action army revolver in 45 short Colt. "45 Long Colt" is a misdescription.
 
hatman1793 said:
Third generation & recent production Colt SAA's in 45 Colt does not command C$2000.00. Especially used. Immaculate perhaps, but new-in-the-box (NIB) is not what you are describing. A used 3rd generation Colt SAA immaculate revolver is worth maybe, $1800.00.

BTW, there never was a 45 short Colt, conversely, there never was a 45 long Colt. Colt never, ever, chambered their revolutionary single action army revolver in 45 short Colt. "45 Long Colt" is a misdescription.
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The distinction arises from the US Army's use of the 45 Schofield round at the same time as the .45 Colt. the 45 Schofield round was shorter and was able to be shot in the SAA 45 Colt. Obviously the longer 45 Colt cartridge could not be shot on the Schofield. Hence over time folks referred to the 45 Colt as the 45 Long Colt vs the shorter 45 cartridge used in the Schofield when wanting to purchase 45 Colt cartridges. Both the 45 Colt and the reference 45 Long Colt are quite acceptable descriptions of the same cartridge. I would think anyone using the 45 LC as opposed to 45 Colt is as correct. BTW my Uberti revolvers are stamped 45LC on the barrels.

From Wikipedia:
"This cartridge was originally designed as a black powder round. The Schofield revolver (a variant of the Smith & Wesson Model 3) was patented in the USA on 20 June 1871 and 22 April 1873 by Smith & Wesson. It was a Smith & Wesson Model 3 that was modified, due to a suggestion by Major George Schofield, to make it easier for a cavalryman to reload while riding. While the Colt 45 had more power, the speed at which a cavalryman could reload a Schofield was less than 30 seconds, half of the time for a Colt 45. By 1879, the U. S. Army had purchased 8,285 of the revolvers. Due to its reduced power and recoil compared to the Colt .45, it was easier to shoot accurately, yet still retained effective stopping power on the battlefield. It became the standard cartridge of the Army, though the Colt 1873 still was the main issue side arm of the Army.The .45 Schofield cartridge was shorter than the .45 Colt. It could be used in both the Schofield and the Colt 45 Peacemaker, but the .45 Colt was too long to use in the Schofield. As a result, by the 1880s the army finally standardized on a .45 cartridge designed to fire in both revolvers, the M1887 Military Ball Cartridge. The M1887 was made at Frankford Arsenal, and was issued only to the military. It had the shorter case of the Schofield and the reduced rim of the Colt round; as it was short enough to fit the Schofield, and its rim was not needed for the rod-ejector Single Action Army, the M1887 would fire and eject from both revolvers.[SUP][3]"I

Take Care

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Personally, I will almost always call it 45 long colt... because before I started reloading, I had to buy ammo. Swift Current is the nearest place to where I live to buy handgun ammo, and at that... Canadian Tire is the only choice left since Bender's shut down.

You ask a minimum wage Canadian Tire twit for 45 colt... and they are coming back with 45 ACP. EVERY. TIME. So it simplifies it to call it 45 long colt... then you have at 75% chance that they are coming back with the correct product.

It's the fact that the original 45 acp was made by colt, that makes 45 colt a confusing name. 45 long colt is without a doubt 45 revolver ammo every time, with no confusion. So, it is not wrong to call it 45 long colt, the people that stop to correct me from calling it 45 long colt have not had the experiences of people assuming a 45 caliber 1911 is a 45 colt. So if you feel compelled to correct someone for 45 long colt, just leave it alone. Pick on the clip people instead.
 
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