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Hello
I’m in the market for a Colt SAA antique and have a few questions for those in the know
First where can I I buy one ., lol
Second,what’s the next best caliber besides 45 LC?.
I’m thinking 44 Russian or 44 Special

I’d like one with 5 1/2 barrel if possible.
 
I reload so I guess that helps.
If I had one in 41 LC how difficult would it be to upgrade the cylinder and barrel to modern smokeless powder loads?
 
I have one that was originally 41 LC. It was converted to 38 Special and handles smokeless loads with no issue. If It were upgraded to a more powerful cartridge like 44 Special I would be more cautious as although the barrel and cylinder could handle it, the old frame might suffer frame stretch over time or worse if using powerful modern smokeless loads.

Most of these guns you find on the market will be 41LC. Even experienced reloaders cheat a little when reloading this caliber. In it's 1800's form it was a healed cartridge like a 22 LR and as such requires a crimp that dies can't provide as the bullet OD is the same as the case OD. Often custom made crimpers are made from vice grips to work around this. The more common "cheat" done today is to load with a hollow base bullet of soft lead matching the ID of the case. This expands to the rifling of the barrel and I hear works OK.

I couldn't deal with that so years ago when I was seeking a SAA I was chasing down something in 455, 44 Special, 44 Russian, 38 Special etc. I have been very happy with mine and if you have means, it is the sweetest of antique revolvers to own.

Cheers
Moe
 

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I have been very happy with mine and if you have means, it is the sweetest of antique revolvers to own.
Off-topic, but I'm very curious: why do people like them so much? They seem sort-of clunky and finnicky. That's from having handled one, though I've never fired one. What's better about them than, say, a Reichsrevolver? (Reichsrevolvers aren't bad guns, but but at 3x the price, I'd expect something really amazing out of a Colt SAA!).
 
Off-topic, but I'm very curious: why do people like them so much? They seem sort-of clunky and finnicky. That's from having handled one, though I've never fired one. What's better about them than, say, a Reichsrevolver? (Reichsrevolvers aren't bad guns, but but at 3x the price, I'd expect something really amazing out of a Colt SAA!).
It’s because it’s a classic man.
 
Off-topic, but I'm very curious: why do people like them so much? They seem sort-of clunky and finnicky. That's from having handled one, though I've never fired one. What's better about them than, say, a Reichsrevolver? (Reichsrevolvers aren't bad guns, but but at 3x the price, I'd expect something really amazing out of a Colt SAA!).
There is a reason why champions all use colts
 
Off-topic, but I'm very curious: why do people like them so much? They seem sort-of clunky and finnicky. That's from having handled one, though I've never fired one. What's better about them than, say, a Reichsrevolver? (Reichsrevolvers aren't bad guns, but but at 3x the price, I'd expect something really amazing out of a Colt SAA!).
Well the parts and guns are still made so that is convenient when a small part breaks. Hollywood westerns have created a strong nostalgia for these Colts. Makes for nice conversation with range guests concerning the fame.

Cheers
Moe
 
Off-topic, but I'm very curious: why do people like them so much? They seem sort-of clunky and finnicky. That's from having handled one, though I've never fired one. What's better about them than, say, a Reichsrevolver? (Reichsrevolvers aren't bad guns, but but at 3x the price, I'd expect something really amazing out of a Colt SAA!).
Clunky and finicky? And you think a reichsrevolver isn't clunky? They're among the most clockwork of revolvers. Reliable and well built. If you get one that's been tuned it's like handling butter. Unless you have giant clumsy hands and they simply don't fit your bearpaws?

The only finicky variant of the Colt model P was the double action 1877 Colt lightning. Those are notorious for being delicate and prone to breakage.

A large part of the price increase is due to the Hollywood movies of the 1950s to 1970s that ingrained the Colt as the every man's gun of the West. Even today in most Hollywood movies the characters use Colt clones to depict life in the wild West. Remington 1878s and S&W no 3 are equally nice but much less common today.
 
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Last SAA I fired was an elderly .44-40. Even though pre '98, not an antique. Shot to point of aim, grouped well, comfortable to handle. Simple mechanism, parts readily available. Apart from the $$$, what's not to like? The Reichsrevolvers are built like tanks, and are big. Great shooters, ammunition is easy to make.
I remember a SAA I saw for sale some years ago. In an original fitted case. .455. British proofed. Flat top target. Looked new in the box, never refurbished. One of a handful made in that caliber and configuration. Pre '98. 8 grand. Would have been a sound investment.
There is an 1875 Remington, nickeled, ivory grips, .44 Remington, over $3k with a week to go in one of the current auctions. The Remington never felt as good in the hand as a Colt in my opinion.
 
The S&W new model #3 is a good target gun. But its not in same league as Colt.
Colt is so rugged and simple that even 150 years old they are still running and reliable. S&W cylinder unlocks when you release the trigger. Light trigger pull and a few rounds fired and the cylinder can rotate on you when you dont want it to and then your hammer comes down on a empty cylinder. You cant slip fire a S&W either. Plus the hammer isnt in the right spot for fast thumb cocking if you are shooting gunfighter with a gun in each hand.
Colt SAA parts are expensive but still availible with enough time and money. S&W you better be good with tig. files and have lots of time. With determination spaghetti parts can be made to fit.
Colts are also easier to work at than S&W.Think of P model colts as ak and s&w as m16. Colts simple and reliable. The hand on the colts with the double edge to engage the cylinders is a better set up than the hand on s&w revolvers.
Remington modern reproductions are way better than originals. Originals all over the place on cylinder and chamber dimensions a long with other parts . Sam Colts factory had way more experience producing big volumes of revolvers than Remington and colt parts way more closer tolerances and interchangability.
Here is a quick google search of famous guys who were killed when they should have been carrying a colt (grin) dont take me to serious. But Colts are awesome and everything else sucks. Double action is for Euroweenies

John Wesley Hardin (Smith & Wesson)
John Wesley Hardin, one of the deadliest and most prolific gunfighters in Western history, was shot and killed from behind by Constable John Selman at the Acme Saloon in El Paso, Texas, on August 19, 1895. At the exact moment he was gunned down, Hardin was carrying a nickel-plated Smith & Wesson .44-40 Frontier Double Action revolver. The firearm was recovered from his body by law enforcement and eventually sold at a Bonhams Auction in 2021 for over $625,000. [1, 2, 3]

2. James "Wild Bill" Hickok (Smith & Wesson)
While Wild Bill Hickok was world-famous for his ivory-handled Colt 1851 Navy percussion revolvers, he had added a smaller backup gun to his person by the end of his life. When Jack McCall infamously shot Hickok in the back of the head during a poker game in Deadwood on August 2, 1876, Hickok was carrying a pocket-sized Smith & Wesson Model No. 2 Army (.32 rimfire cartridge revolver) tucked into his belt alongside his traditional Colts.

3. Jesse James (Smith & Wesson & Remington)
When Jesse James was assassinated in his home by Robert Ford on April 3, 1882, his extensive personal arsenal was left behind, which featured multiple non-Colt models. Though he frequently used Colts, James was a major proponent of the Smith & Wesson Schofield .45 caliber revolver and the Remington Model 1875. Because he had unbuckled his gun belt just before he was shot, these exact non-Colt revolvers were the ones hanging on the wall or resting on the furniture when he was killed.

4. Bob Ollinger (Remington)
Bob Ollinger, a brutal deputy marshal and gunfighter, was famously blasted to death by Billy the Kid during the Kid's legendary escape from the Lincoln County Courthouse on April 28, 1881. Ollinger was a known devotee of Remington firearms. When Billy shot him from the courthouse window using Ollinger's own shotgun, Ollinger was actively carrying a Remington Model 1875 single-action revolver sidearm in his holster. [1]

5. Sam Bass (Smith & Wesson)
The notorious Texas train robber and gang leader Sam Bass was ambushed by Texas Rangers and local lawmen in Round Rock, Texas, on July 19, 1878. He was mortally wounded in the shootout and died two days later on his 27th birthday. During the final months of his criminal career and the gunfight that claimed his life, Bass favored and carried a Smith & Wesson Schofield .45 caliber revolver rather than a Colt Peacemaker.
 
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