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Hi guys,

Question(s) for you all. I bought a Winchester Commemorative collection of 15 lever action rifles. Never fired, no boxes.

They found the boxes - what are they worth?

What websites or companies or resources are there out there to learn more about the values etc?

Thanks for the help!

T
 
Is the person you bought the guns from offering to sell you the boxes ?If that is the case they should be giving you the boxes since you already paid for the guns and they go with them.The only thing you should have to pay for is if the boxes have to be shipped to you.The boxes themselves do add a bit more value to the guns but their value also depends on their condition so it is hard to speculate on how much value they add without knowing their condition
 
100% the boxes should go with the rifles. You shouldn't have to 'buy' them.

BTW, in my opinion, not too many people north of the border into collecting commemorative Winchester rifles these days. Not a particularly great investment unless you got them dirt cheap or you yourself are into collecting them.

I have two, both 'shooters' [both in .30-30 Win] and paid 'shooter' prices for them.... Cowboy & Legendary Lawmen. Have the original box for the LL but not the Cowboy. Both have the silver colored receivers, not the tacky 'gold plated' ones some versions sport. The LL is my favourite as it has the factory 16" carbine barrel.

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the boxes will add 30% to the value of the guns and depending on the model even more simply roam around on gun auction sites for values that is the true values threads like this is opinions
you should not have to buy the boxes very scummy move
the boxes have very little value on there own
even if you pay 100$ per box you are s head of the game right now you have shooters not collector grade guns
 
when you purchased the guns the price should have been adjusted with out the boxes example
if the retail price was 1500$ then the price should have been 1200-1250$
also if all the paper work is not in the boxes then the boxes don't add much value they must be complete for full value
 
I would agree that the box and the decorative sleeve should be included. The sleeve condition is to be considered in pricing of the rifles.

A number of years ago a local gun store got an estate to sell including 15 new in the box commemoratives. Some sleeves were in better shape than others and the prices reflected that.

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Sounds like the second part of a two part sale. I think it would be kind of hard to misplace 15 full length rifle boxes.
Again, as above it depends on the no box bargain price the op got them for.
Unless the op is within pickup range, factor in how much shipping will be for 15 boxes if all original ppwk and acc are intact it will be hard to flat fold or next to impossible if outer sleeves are included.
 
Thanks for the opinions guys, appreciated. I bought them at a good price. They are within a distance I can just drive the 1 hour and grab them. They aren’t being slimy, they are just cleaning up an estate and came across them; they actually didn’t really say they wanted to be paid for them, they called because they found 3 more and would like me to take them off their hands as well and keep the collection together. Glad I asked you guys about the value of the boxes though!
 
Commemorativenut said:
Hi guys,

Question(s) for you all. I bought a Winchester Commemorative collection of 15 lever action rifles. Never fired, no boxes.

They found the boxes - what are they worth?

What websites or companies or resources are there out there to learn more about the values etc?

Thanks for the help!

T
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What are they worth? They are "worth" what a willing buyer will pay for them and what a willing seller will let them go for - like most stuff - there isn't (or should not be) a price list to refer to. Some years go in a Mexico clothing store - yes, American and Canadian tourists would pay what was written on the price tag - locals would get the same item for like 20 cents on the dollar, sometimes after days of "haggling". I am sure the tourists thought they got a "good deal".
 
Potashminer said:
What are they worth? They are "worth" what a willing buyer will pay for them and what a willing seller will let them go for - like most stuff - there isn't (or should not be) a price list to refer to. Some years go in a Mexico clothing store - yes, American and Canadian tourists would pay what was written on the price tag - locals would get the same item for like 20 cents on the dollar, sometimes after days of "haggling". I am sure the tourists thought they got a "good deal".
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You should look into teaching economics
 
Commemorativenut said:
Good old days of the live auction
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And that was in the real old days of Bud Haynes...The venue was an old small garage beside the Red Deer river in an industrial area and he and the girls stood on 2x10 planks supported & elevated on 45 gal drums at the back of the building.
You are sure right about "the good old days". No FAC or PAL back then, you outbid everybody else and then the gun was handed down from the planks into the crowd and handed thru the crowd until it reached you...it was in your hands 30 seconds after the sale. One of the girls followed it to you so you could sign the credit card receipt or pay your cash...you bet those were the good old days that thousands of Canadian gun owners will never know
 
fingers284 said:
And that was in the real old days of Bud Haynes...The venue was an old small garage beside the Red Deer river in an industrial area and he and the girls stood on 2x10 planks supported & elevated on 45 gal drums at the back of the building.
You are sure right about "the good old days". No FAC or PAL back then, you outbid everybody else and then the gun was handed down from the planks into the crowd and handed thru the crowd until it reached you...it was in your hands 30 seconds after the sale. One of the girls followed it to you so you could sign the credit card receipt or pay your cash...you bet those were the good old days that thousands of Canadian gun owners will never know
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