Competition hammer on shadow2?

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Has anyone installed a competition hammer on a shadow2?

I installed one on my shadow1 and it's marvelous, the trigger is lighter than on my shadow2, but my shadow2 still has everything original while my shadow1 has lighter springs (main/revoil/firing), so I'm wondering if changing only the springs will take me to where my S1 is, or if I should change the hammer too. I'm not so fond of changing hammers on Shadows, they're ridiculously hard to install, so was wondering if anyone has changed theirs on a S2, and how much it improved the trigger. On my S1 it was nothing less than a miracle, but the S2 hammer might be better than the S1's out of the box.
 
Hey Vinny, I installed the wide competition hammer on my S2 last weekend. Here's my 2cents worth...

My S2 already had the springs changed out and guts polished. My DA is currently at 6.6lbs avg and SA is 1.8lbs avg. Before the hammer swap, it was pretty slick shooter and the trigger felt pretty good. The new wide comp hammer seems to have increased the inertia of the firing pin, I'm suspecting due to more mass over the factory one. The trigger reset was already short with the factory hammer setup. The new hammer makes the trigger feel a little bit crisper and just a smidge shorter in the reset. The enhancements seem to be very minute and if it's worth the $120. upgrade is debatable. If you're expecting a night and day difference with just a hammer swap, I'd say save your money for ammo and just do the springs and polish job. I really tried to take a solid mental picture in my head before and after the hammer swap so maybe it's just psychological. If only I had a second S2 to do a side by side comparrison. lol

I'm thinking of upgrading the disco but I can't seem to find any info on whether the pre-B disco is better or the same as the one in the S2. Reducing some of the take-up would be nice but it probably won't make me any better at matches at my current level.
 
I got the CZ one from SelectShootingSupplies. That $79 price tag at DLASK is a lot nice looking than $120! Too bad he didn't have the wide hammer in stock too.

Damn, almost had a panic attack just now. I looked up the hammer on SSS site only to see it listed under CZ Custom parts and for a sec there, I thought the competition hammers were made by CZ Custom but then calmed down when they mention that the hammers are made by CZUB. Thought I'd have to switch back to stay in Production. Whew!
 
Well well, it seems I'm using a narrow hammer on a S1, which requires a wide hammer. Works super well though. I'm tempted to get one anyway to try it, but switching those hammers is a real PITA. In a perfect world I'd buy a hammer, a hammer strut, a disconnector and 2 pins and make a new hammer/strut/disc. SSS is out of disconnectors though, so that plan isn't a plan. Kinda sucks also that SS doesn't have any spring in stock, dlask charges 17$ for shipping even if it's just 27$ in springs weighting almost nothing.

The disconnector on the S2 seems shorter than the one of the S1. It's definitely a different part, the S1 disconnector is 15 euros while the S2 is 42 euros (the Pre-B is 46 euros and looks a lot like the S2). It might help on a S1, but I don't think it'll make much of a difference on a S2. From the pictures the S2 disconnector looks like a better polished pre-B.
 
Yup. It sure sucks that you can't get all your parts from one store and paying $15. for postage twice is just burning good money esp small items like springs which can fit in a bubble pack. I bought a bit of stuff from ipscstore.eu and it was only 6Euros to ship to Canada. The wait time was anywhere from 3-4wks, probably longer now with the Christmas rush at the Post Office starting up. Some things are cheaper and some cost almost as much buying them here. They only seem to carry the thin competition hammer from CZ but they carry the ET brand ones but those aren't IPSC Production approved.

A while back, I thought I read somewhere that the S2 did use the pre-b disco but I'm not sure if I misread that but now I can't seem to find that posting anywhere.

The narrow hammer does works but I prefer the look of the wide filling up the gap in the slide. That look cost me $50 extra! I'm sure the extra mass doesn't hurt either. Too bad Dlask doesn't carry the wide hammer. :p
 
So I decided to order a disconnector, strut and sear (plus pins) from ipscstore.eu. Which they'd had springs and comp hammers in stock. Anyway they gave me 15% for cyber monday. Somehow their code for orders >300E worked with a <100E order. Good thing romania observes US holidays :)

Anyway with the strut, disconnector and pins I can make a new hammer block, and with the new sear I can adjust for that block if needed. If not needed then I just keep a sear, wasn't very expensive anyway.

I'm still on the fence about thin/fat comp hammer. 80$ for the thin and virtually free shipping (cause I'm getting springs from dlask anyway) or 120$+15$ shipping from SSS, that's a 55$ difference mostly for look. If SSS had springs in stock again it would be a different story. As you said best case would have been if dlask carried the wide comp hammer.
 
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