Complete Handgun Ban following toronto shooting

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i was just listening to the radio news. they said some polititian said handguns should be banned completely because of the emense public safety threat they pose.

this statement i found in a CTV news article on the net.

"We have to, I think, make a statement in Canada that handguns are not acceptable anymore," Miller told CBC News.

quote was from toronto mayor david miller.
 
ya sorry guys. i left the computer to listen to the news and missed the other threads on the topic.

ignore this one and maybe a moderator will delete it.
 
Well seeing at Toronto City Hall, already blew thier 1.2 billion savings funds, (and are now essentually broke) lets hope they don't have the money to pull off something like this.
 
Somebody ought to tell that goof Miller that his problem is the illegal guns on the street. All the legislation in the world isnt gonna stop that problem until he grows some balz and lets his cops do their job. Stop worrying about the potential votes from the "New Canadians" and get on with the job at hand. Ya, he's gonna ruffle some feathers but until our justice system stops worrying about the rights of a proven criminal he will continue to have this problem.. The guy isnt sure if his butt was punched, bored or he just grew up around it..
I am off my soapbox now. I just hope stupidity isnt contagious but in the political arena apparently it is..
dB
 
this is what he has to send back to emails

Thank you for your email letter.


I appreciate you taking the time to write and share your concerns and perspective on this terrible tragedy. Be assured the Mayor takes the issue of safety very seriously. We want to assure you that we are committed to improving public safety on our streets, by reducing all crimes.



We need zero tolerance and people who not only use guns but possess guns should be penalized to the fullest extent of the law.



We feel we also need to ban handguns. A great deal of guns used in crimes are stolen from legal gun owners. The Mayor is of the opinion that this ban on private handguns and semi-automatic weapons would lead to fewer guns on the streets of Toronto.



Mayor Miller is working with Mayors from across North America to pressure senior orders of government to impose such a ban. As well the Mayor has championed an initiative to get courts to impose reverse-onus bail conditions for people caught with illegal guns or who use them illegally.



Months back Mayor Miller met with the Prime Minister and the Premier to get the word out on this reverse onus. All three agree that when someone uses a gun they need to go to jail and stay there without bail. We all hope that this legislation passes.



The federal government also needs to work with border services to crack down on illegal smuggling of firearms into Canada.



The number of reports coming forward to the police is on the upswing, the increased reporting of crimes is a good thing because it means people are coming forward and that is helpful for police in solving crimes.



We have hired more police within the city through Chief Blair's initiatives and the city's financial contributions and have made a point to improve relations with at-risk communities; that means more opportunities for the kind of community outreach that benefits both residents and police.



Since last year, Toronto Police have deployed all available officers to our most vulnerable communities.



Also, Toronto Council created The Mayor's Advisory Panel on Community Safety to guide the City in preventing violence and building safe communities. The panel first met on April 6, 2004 to begin developing a plan that could be successfully implemented in partnership with the public, private and community-based sectors.



The Community Safety Panel:

· Works with residents and local agencies to co-ordinate neighborhood action plans in at-risk neighborhoods

· Works with City departments, agencies, boards and commissions to ensure that enough resources are dedicated to programs and services in at-risk communities

· identifies employment, job training and/or internship opportunities for youth

· Works with Councilors to develop community safety initiatives in their wards

· manages the crisis response program to provide immediate supports to Toronto neighborhoods in crisis

· Works with the provincial and federal governments on issues such as gun control, sentencing alternatives and youth employment liaises with a designated senior Toronto Police.


Again thank you.
Joanne Miller
 
Ugh... maybe Miller is feeling a need to return Canada to the country he left as a small child. He Immigrated here from where else but the country with the most F'd up gun laws going... the UK baby!

What a ####.
 
Its a blanket response from his office, i got the same reply from my email. BUT
What the hell does he mean by this, being a legal owner( possess), you should be punished ?

"We need zero tolerance and people who not only use guns but possess guns should be penalized to the fullest extent of the law."
 
as you can also see in todays paper.. Not a single person has come forward to volenteer any info..

I think thier "wall of silence" kills more people then the handguns (It effectivly lets the criminals stay on the street, and commit more crimes, murders etc)
 
And we all know HOW WELL the handgun ban worked in the U.K.
Or for that matter, in Washington D.C. or New Yawk.

Hell, lets ban cars because drunks get behind the wheel and kill people.

A more effective measure would be to BAN BRAIN DEAD POLITICIANS
 
Handguns aren't banned in New York. In fact one could argue their laws are less restrictive than Canada because you can still get a premises permit to keep a handgun at home for self-defence without too much difficulty, and they don't have all the BS to do with barrel lengths and calibres like Canada does. And ordinary people have been known to get carry permits, at least upstate.

Although I suspect in reality it's more straightforward to get a licence for target shooting in Canada than in NY. Certainly easier to own multiple handguns.
 
Lets see some cold numbers for stolen legal Canadian handguns used in crimes. See the armed guard who got his gun stolen, thats what'll happen to the police if they ban all handguns. The criminals will set up the police to steal their guns.
 
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