Comps and Muzzle Brakes - questions?

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I am after possibly getting a brake with my next rifle, just wondering about "quiet" ones. I want a decent brake but not tons of extra sound. I understand physics and the fact that I will end up with more noise anyways, but I figure there must be some comps out there with less noise..

What have you guys been using?

Thanks
 
Slaymoar said:
I am after possibly getting a brake with my next rifle, just wondering about "quiet" ones. I want a decent brake but not tons of extra sound. I understand physics and the fact that I will end up with more noise anyways, but I figure there must be some comps out there with less noise..

What have you guys been using?

Thanks
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Sorry OP but any EFFECTIVE break is going to increase sound wave pressure buy as much as ten times. That phrase "no such thing as a free lunch" applies to brakes as well. Worse still the more effective the brake the louder it will be, its just the physics of how brakes work. What rifle do you want to brake?. If you are braking a little caliber like a 223 you can get away with a quieter brake. Conversely if you want to brake a 577 karnosaur you are going to want a more effective (louder) brake. Google "best muzzle brake" there are some tests on youtube that compare different brakes with decibel readings. good luck
 
This one works well as a brake. The ports are in the front, so the extra noise is not bad. About same size as the A1 birdcage. About $50 from S&J Hardware.

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I just installed a linear brake from S&J, helps with recoil, helps with muzzle climb, helps A LOT with mitigating noise in both my ears, and the ears of shooters beside me.

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Thanks guys, I am looking at getting a 308 bolt and want my 12yo to be able to shoot it at the range.. looks like the SJ linear is a good candidate.
 
A linear brake does direct the blast away from the shooter. The braking effect is much less than a laterally ported brake.
No free lunch.
Good hearing protection makes shooting with a brake acceptable. Wouldn't fire a well braked rifle without protection, though.
 
There are very good electronic muffs that actually enhance one's hearing.
I wear hearing aids when not shooting. Good muffs almost act as hearing aids. The effect is not dissimilar.
 
Slaymoar said:
Thanks guys, I am looking at getting a 308 bolt and want my 12yo to be able to shoot it at the range.. looks like the SJ linear is a good candidate.
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Hmmm, with that information, you may want something with more recoil reduction? tiriaq is dead on when he says a linear brake has much less recoil reduction than a laterally ported brake...is the 12 year old comfortable with the recoil of an unbraked .308? Does this .308 have a short barrel where a linear brake really helps? Are you looking at replacing the recoil pad with a Limbsaver (which IMO is a nice addition to any rifle) to help your 12 year old?

Pesky ol' questions:).
 
tiriaq said:
There are very good electronic muffs that actually enhance one's hearing.
I wear hearing aids when not shooting. Good muffs almost act as hearing aids. The effect is not dissimilar.
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Seems to be some REALLY cheap muffs out there... whats the true tested stuff? I'd pay $30-50 / pair for me and my boy..

smelly pete said:
Hmmm, with that information, you may want something with more recoil reduction? tiriaq is dead on when he says a linear brake has much less recoil reduction than a laterally ported brake...is the 12 year old comfortable with the recoil of an unbraked .308? Does this .308 have a short barrel where a linear brake really helps? Are you looking at replacing the recoil pad with a Limbsaver (which IMO is a nice addition to any rifle) to help your 12 year old?

Pesky ol' questions:).
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Well he shot a 270 and decided not to continue after the second shot. He was SUPER tense during the shots. When he tried an AR type 308 with a brake, he got startled by the first shot, but he was so surprised at how comfortable and easy it was to shoot, he placed 3 of the 5 shots on a 6" metal target at 50 yards.

As for length, I will get a compact 308, probably 11/111 hog with threaded barrel. As for limb saver, most likely :D
 
$30-$50 a set isn't in that category of muff. If they work for target shooting, OK. Doubling up with plugs on the range can be a good idea. For hunting, maybe not.
I would really make sure that your 12 year old is using first class hearing protection. Well, everyone should. As I mentioned, I wear hearing aids in both ears. 2 hearing aids = 2 ar-15s.
 
tiriaq said:
$30-$50 a set isn't in that category of muff. If they work for target shooting, OK. Doubling up with plugs on the range can be a good idea. For hunting, maybe not.
I would really make sure that your 12 year old is using first class hearing protection. Well, everyone should. As I mentioned, I wear hearing aids in both ears. 2 hearing aids = 2 ar-15s.
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I still baffles me when I see folks at the range w/o proper earing protection, be it plugs or muffs (or both). Low quality, not wearing them properly, etc.

There is so much one can say and do to help others who won't listen, pun intended.
 
Slaymoar said:
Well he shot a 270 and decided not to continue after the second shot. He was SUPER tense during the shots. When he tried an AR type 308 with a brake, he got startled by the first shot, but he was so surprised at how comfortable and easy it was to shoot, he placed 3 of the 5 shots on a 6" metal target at 50 yards.

As for length, I will get a compact 308, probably 11/111 hog with threaded barrel. As for limb saver, most likely :D
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Hrmmm...I'll assume factory loads in both rifles, and no brakes on the rifles he shot; if this is correct then the AR type .308 is going to be a softer shooter, it's the nature of a semi-automatic with all it's lovely moving parts and springs. A bolt gun gives you all the recoil, along with all the accuracy ;). If his comfort level is important to you on this particular rifle, maybe a brake that leans more towards recoil compensation would be in order? You can always unscrew it for hunting. The comfort level for me also goes way up with proper ear-pro.

As to the cost of muffs....well. Good electronic muffs start at about $100, and go upward from there. Don't buy the cheapies, been there done that...they fail. Just buy normal muffs in that case. Slim ones are nice for a decent cheekweld. I have what I consider the cheapest decent pair of slim electric muffs -Howard Leigh Impact Sports- and at the bench I put my cheap foamy earplugs in as well, and turn the volume up. The amount of sound this reduces really helps me with flinching. These muffs are not the best at noise reduction, for that I'd need to double the cost.

Another recoil reducer to look at that will last a lifetime, doesn't hurt your ears and is very transferable between rifles is a PAST shoulder pad....?
 
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