Concensus on Steyr M9A1? How do they perform?

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Well the title says it all. I'm interested in getting one of these in 9MM as Steyr is a fairly well known Manufacturer. The only thing is that I've never handled one. Anyone out there has one? Any reports?
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Food for thought and a heads up in case you're not aware:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=650783&highlight=Steyr+recall

I'm not sure if any M9A1's currently in Canada fall under this recall but it's probably worth your time to make sure the one you're interested in buying isn't in the serial number range(s). Other than this pesky recall (which may or may not affect you) I think they're well built and good shooters. I don't own one but have had the chance to handle and fire a friends. Nice pistol...
 
Food for thought and a heads up in case you're not aware:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=650783&highlight=Steyr+recall

I'm not sure if any M9A1's currently in Canada fall under this recall but it's probably worth your time to make sure the one you're interested in buying isn't in the serial number range(s). Other than this pesky recall (which may or may not affect you) I think they're well built and good shooters. I don't own one but have had the chance to handle and fire a friends. Nice pistol...

Thanks I already saw that. :)
After the new batch has been put out though I'm wondering whether it's worth buying one just for play. I've seen a few videos on Youtube and it looks pretty decent.
 
i shot one, really liked the feel of it in my hand, shot really well. I couldnt get over the triangle sights, but i understand you can switch those out for more traditional sights.
 
I am sure you have read the history on the development of these. A glock engineer took the design to Glock as he wanted to improve on the G17 and this is what he came up with, glock said no, Steyr said yes. Design wise its a great platform. What I liked best about mine was the grip angle and how naturally it pointed at the target. the triangle sites were very easy to adjust to, and the pistol was a delight to shoot, no feeding or extracting issues. I liked everything about it.

Ended up selling it as I prefer shooting heavy framed 9's, easier on the arthritis.

Great little pistol
 
Owned a couple... a nice design. Better trigger, much more elegant. Rails can be removed from the frame, the firing pin doesn't use a plastic liner. All around a solid design.

My only complaint was the lack of support. I couldn't even buy mags for them (this is back when they were new). Spare parts were also impossible to get... unsure if that's changed.

I do prefer it to the Glocks, but Glock has such a huge support base that it outweighs the other things (for us in Canada).


~Cheers
 
This damn gun keeps tempting me over and over... its a "Nosferatu" in my mind: every time I think I have driven the stake through it and no longer want one, I continue to be tempted.

I owned one in the past. I actually sold it to the wife of a VPD constable... so hopefully it worked out well for them! :eek:

It has some good things going for it. The grip is good. It is a still somewhat of a unique pistol on the Canadian market. At the end of the day though, it is an "underdog" pistol. It is a gun for people who want to have the un-GLOCK. Its a gun for the kind of people that want a Chrysler muscle car instead of a Ford or Chevy muscle car, or they want a... whatever... they want the pretender that will never occupy the throne, because the big boy on the block is just too commonplace and obvious.

For better or worse, I tend to be one of those people. :D Hence the continued temptation. (The pistols I mainly use are the GLOCK 19 - and some GLOCK 23, the HK P7M8, P7M13, and the SIG 228 and 229).

The sights... are completely wack. I wanted to love them. Apparently some people do love them. Damned if I can understand why. The main problem with them in my view is... the sight picture either lines up right on the money at the distance the gun is sighted in for or... you are going to struggle to estimate where to put the sights. There is no putting the front sight up above the rear sight for a longer shot. At distances other than what it is sighted in for, the rear sight just becomes a useless distraction. I had to resort to ignoring the rear sight altogether for the most part and just thinking in terms of pointing the gun. It is not a system that jives with my eyes or my shooting experience. For reference, I like Trijicons on GLOCKs and most other pistols (or SIGlites/Meprolights, just normal three dots. I don't like the stock plastic "U" sights on GLOCKs either. Also totally wack). I find three dots infinitely easier to use. Steyr is now shipping pistols (the "C" guns) with three dots. There will be a small hardcore cult of trapezoid sight enthusiasts forever (mostly on the internet, I wold think) but it is overall an inferior system that no other pistol maker has, or ever will, use. If I get a Steyr "M" in the future it will have to have three dot sights. I was going to order some three dots for my old one, but I sold it before doing so.

The other thing, I found the "fully supported chamber" to be too much. There is no need for the chamber to be so tight and so supported on those guns, and it does decrease reliability. When they get dirty they can fail to feed far easier than their competitors.

If you have any parts problems, as some people did with the M series triggers, you will no have an easier time getting parts. Even the mags take work to find.

The main thing with Steyr pistols in Canada though, is that they are not imported here anyway. I've mentioned this several times on here, but I'll say it again. All the M9A1 and M40A1 pistols in Canada are 2003-2007 manufacture (roughly), and they are all "special run" pistols with 106mm barrels, as the gun normally has a 102mm barrel. In 2008 Steyr pistols left the U.S. market. When they returned to the U.S. market in 2010, they came with a redesigned trigger and extractor. They also dropped that weird cone-thing on the breachface that works as part of the loaded chamber indicator (at least I think they dropped that). That cone was a bad idea. I can post some pictures later to explain what I mean. I think it messed with reliable and predictable ejection. The new redesigned pistols all have "W" (1) as the middle letter in the three letter date code (2010, 2011, etc.). The ones in Canada all have "O" (0) as the middle letter (2004, 2005, etc.). The redesigned guns also have a left-to-right roll pin through the slide under the rear sight. This is the mark of the new trigger. No rollpin = old stock.

I hope that North Sylva, the supposed "Steyr Distributor" for Canada will get some new 106mm "M" pistols in. Some "C" and "S" pistols with a threaded barrel would be cool too. Steyr has completely dried up on the Canadian market though. I am a Steyr nut myself (I have three Steyr rifles I love), but there is just nothing out there right now. Strangely there seems to be more .50 cal rifles available from the sight sponsors than any other Steyr product. If the redesigned pistols do arrive, I will probably snap one up and see if things have changed for the better. I hope they do, because Steyr rocks! GLOCK, SIG and some of the other big boys make an objectively better pistol, but there is room for everyone. I have a Luger I shoot sometimes too, and not because it is the most reliable, bomb-proof design of all time. Some guns are just cool.
 
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This damn gun keeps tempting me over and over... its a "Nosferatu" in my mind: every time I think I have driven the stake through it and no longer want one, I continue to be tempted.

I know exactly where you're coming from. I have the same feelings towards this pistol. As far as availability goes, I see DelSelins has one and there is also one listed on the Wanstalls website. I'm not sure if inventory is accurate on the Wanstall's website though....
 
I love mine, I think it is a highly underrated pistol. As an owner of both Glock and Steyr, I prefer the Steyr mainly due to the trigger pull and the way that it recoils. The grip angle is about the same (bad) and honestly I think the reliability is on par. My only complaints would be the lack of aftermarket support and the un-tapered mag well. The aesthetics are better than the Glock and the muzzle flip is less due to low profile slide and hight over bore. All in all it is a great pistol and at considerable value. I still want to try out the Sig SP2022, I think that it would be another excellent contender for the price.
 
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