Converting a Weatherby question ?????

powdergun

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I have a mark V in 300Wby with pretty wood and all that but I was wondering if one could rebarrel and restock the gun for some real precision shooting. I love the round but that long skinny barrel has never been condusive to any real accuracy.

Is the weatherby action worth the expense ?
 
powdergun said:
I have a mark V in 300Wby with pretty wood and all that but I was wondering if one could rebarrel and restock the gun for some real precision shooting. I love the round but that long skinny barrel has never been condusive to any real accuracy.

Is the weatherby action worth the expense ?

Not worth trying in my opinion... the action and the trigger leave a lot to be desired in a precision rifle.
 
Or...keep the pretty rifle, use it as you see fit, but build a project precision rifle from a Rem 700 action and suited to your needs...
 
I don't why someone would say that the trigger in a Mark V is not a good precison rifle trigger. I guess compared to the trigger in my TRG that can be turned down stupidly light and can be adjusted a hundred different ways, but its certainly good for a factory trigger. For one its user adjustable for pull weight and ( be careful playing with it ) for sear engagement . I have numerous Rems, Wins, Rugers, Tikkas, ARs and the both my Mark V triggers are better than the factory triggers of all the previously mentioned save the Tikka . Obviously with a aftermarket or trigger job , the standard factory triggers on the Rems etc are also excellent

As far as FACTORY actions go if you have a donor Mark V why not. Again, people will always talk about the 9 lugs needing lapping etc ( obviously these people have not seen how much lapping some factory Rems etc need ) bla bla bal but both my Mark Vs ( 257wby and 30-378 ) are both sub MOA shooters. The 257 was a bit fussy with Barnes but will put A-Frames into 3/4" even with a skinny barrel

Funny how lots of people say the Mark Vs are not good actions . I can agree that the wby styling is not for everyone and they are spendy for what you get, but I assure you the the machine work on your Mark V ( including the SACO / Acrometal manufactured ) actions are far better than all my Rem 700s and Win 70. As an aside the machine work on my Win70 is a joke. Not suprised they are not making rifles in New Haven anymore.

Only rifles i own that exhibit similar machine work to the Mark Vs are the Sakos, which interestingly enough are also spendy.

My only criticism is the extactor is a bit puny, expecially for the big 378 case size and

Bottome line is it a good precison rifle choice....wouldn't be my first choice, but then again neither would a factory Rem 700 . By the time you buy a donor Rem 700, #### around tuning it up you might as well start off with a Nesika or Surgeon etc .

If you dont want to spend much money, sell your Wby and buy a Tikka and a good scope and you will be shooting sub MOA no problems

If you still want to tune up your Wby try seating the bullets until the just fit in the magazine , or longer if you are ok with single load. Don't get too geeked on what the proper COL is for most Wbys because there is a ton of freebore in your chamber. You will be nowhere near jamming the bullet into your lands. Carefull on your loads though because you will jump pressure as you get closer to your lands
 
TRG-42 said:
I have numerous Rems, Wins, Rugers, Tikkas, ARs and the both my Mark V triggers are better than the factory triggers of all the previously mentioned save the Tikka . Obviously with a aftermarket or trigger job , the standard factory triggers on the Rems etc are also excellent
My Remington 700 trigger (tuned by HWSNBN) is the best trigger I've ever shot with. Extremely crisp, with NO creep whatsoever.

Bottome line is it a good precison rifle choice....wouldn't be my first choice, but then again neither would a factory Rem 700 . By the time you buy a donor Rem 700, #### around tuning it up you might as well start off with a Nesika or Surgeon etc .
Depends on if you buy just the action. I bought a Remington 700P tuned with a professional bedding, floating and trigger job for $1200 from HWSNBN, and I will be thoroughly dissapointed if this thing doesn't shoot under 3/4 MOA at least with the right handloads (it's not scoped yet).

-Rohann
 
Rohann said:
My Remington 700 trigger (tuned by HWSNBN) is the best trigger I've ever shot with.
-Rohann

Except you haven't actually shot with it yet, have you?

How many Tikka or Sako triggers have you tried? How many Weatherbys for that matter? How about Jewel or Shilen triggers or the Factory Barnard trigger?
 
I've shot a competition with a Jewel (I believe) two-stage trigger and it was really nice. My Remington's trigger is perfect, I don't need an aftermarket trigger.
I've dryfired with it plenty.

-Rohann
 
Rohann
There are plenty of after market trigger to fit a Remington. Timmeny, Canjar I think are a bit better then Remingtons. On the higher end Jewel, HHE, Davies and of course Anschutz. Most guys would squeal like a little girl if they had to pay $200 plus for a trigger. I do have a Remington trigger on my 40X and it is OK, however I do like the two stage HHE trigger on my Millennium rifle better.
For an out of the box sweet trigger with not pissing around I would have to say Tikka's are about the best.

Back to powdergun's question...
By the time you restock and rebarrel you may have another $1200-$1500 into it. There are better actions to build a precision rifle on and much better calibers then the .300Wby.
 
maynard said:
Rohann
There are plenty of after market trigger to fit a Remington. Timmeny, Canjar I think are a bit better then Remingtons. On the higher end Jewel, HHE, Davies and of course Anschutz. Most guys would squeal like a little girl if they had to pay $200 plus for a trigger. I do have a Remington trigger on my 40X and it is OK, however I do like the two stage HHE trigger on my Millennium rifle better.
For an out of the box sweet trigger with not pissing around I would have to say Tikka's are about the best.

Back to powdergun's question...
By the time you restock and rebarrel you may have another $1200-$1500 into it. There are better actions to build a precision rifle on and much better calibers then the .300Wby.


I agree on what maynard has said. Amen to that:dancingbanana:
 
I guess everyone has their perception of "precision"... and that's fine.

The biggest problem with the Weatherby Mark V trigger is it has to do two jobs. One as a trigger and at the same time it is required to operate the bolt release. Because of the movement required and the way it is linked is the problem.

It can never be adjusted or worked as well as any 70, 700, etc. triggers.

I have have rebarreled numerous Mark V's. As as hunting rifle, they shoot fine. Lots of guys like them, lots don't. Different strokes for different folks.
 
On the Mk V action, would it be possible to go to an aftermarket boltstop that threads into the side of the action, as one sometimes sees with modified Remingtons? Or would too much re-engineering be necessary?

So to remove the bolt one retracts it, then depresses the trigger, in the manner of some Cooey or Brno .22's?

Obviously I don't have a Mk V; but I'm under the impression the a 'fat bolt' type action, with an interupted-thread type of lock-up could offer some advantages, yes?
 
The weatherby should have been designed with a bolt stop separate from the trigger but it wasn't. One could make a bolt stop to mount on the side of the action ( like the one used on Wichita actions) but it would also be necessary to modify the bolt.
There is no real advantage to the full diameter bolt from a precision standpoint. It does provide an effective means of protecting the shooter in the event of a case failure. It also makes the machining of full length locking lug raceways unnecessary.
The Weatherby lugs are not an interupted thread. They are simply multiple lugs. Newton rifles were an interupted thread as were the Ross rifles. Not that it matters.
If I got hold a a MKV action for cheap and didn't have anything else, I might try to build a precision rifle on it. I would be more likely to sell it and get something more suitable. Regards, Bill.
 
Leeper said:
The Weatherby lugs are not an interupted thread. They are simply multiple lugs. Newton rifles were an interupted thread as were the Ross rifles. Not that it matters.

I think the coolest thing about GunNutz is the extreme depth of knowledge and experience the posters have. I'd hesitate to even begin tallying the number of decades of collective gunsmithing experience here.
Thanx for the info.
 
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