Cooey Model 750 bolt takedown? Takedown and repair starting post #8

H Wally

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So got a cooey model 750 for my girlfriend recently... unfortunately the bolt is wadded so full of grease and muck it can't strike the case hard enough to fire.

I've been soaking the bolt in solvent in the hope that it'll help loosen it up, but I'd prefer to take the bolt apart completely. This raises the question:

How does one take apart a cooey mod 750 bolt? I can't find any screws or pins and am at a loss of how to get it apart. I can post pics if that helps.

Thanks,
Hugh
 
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H Wally

This is one of those easier said than done jobs. Requires a special tool. I made one out of a small set of bent nose needlenose pliers. I had to carefully sharpen the nose to a more narrow point. You may figure out an easier tool or someone else will chime in with a better tool.

Put the firing pin end in a padded vise and pull back on the bolt knob. Have a good lite you can shine in on the bolt shaft. You should be able to see a threaded collar with 2 cuts in it. While pulling back stick you special tool into the cut a turn out. It should thread out and voila the bolt is in 2 pces. Make sure when you reassemble to lock the collar back in place.------Cowboy
 
Believe the protrusion from the non-firing pin part is what anchors the back part, suspect it either unscrews or is pinned in, have seen evidence of that on the opposite side in some bolts. Perhaps take some pics in the process as a reference for the rest of us - think there been a couple questions about this with the most frequent answer being "you dont want to do this."

Can also try soaking the bolt in solvent atop of running dryer, vibrations may help - I do this with bicycle chains - course note that solvent is flammable.
 
Drat again - lineofsight: you were right, the rear pin part is what anchors the bolt. Bad news is that it is a bugger to remove, and will, in my case, result in shearing of the head. Felt like it was loosening... guess it was in a sense... Good thing there's a gun show this weekend - see if I'll be able to find another!
 
Here it is with the head of the rear pin stripped off:

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And here's with the pin drilled out (a punch didn't work)


The parts still won't budge one bit.... in other news, the bolt knob has decided to start loosening:rolleyes:
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I made a plyer set to twist out that collar, but I think it's under too much pressure right now. I'll put it back in the solvent for the night and see if that makes any positive changes.
 
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Went with blue locktight on my bolt knob. Soon you'll be the resident expert on these. They are a little like a Chinese finger puzzle. Would have thought that with the back half off that the tension would be off the front and easier to remove the lock collar. Keep us posted.

You have a nice stock there and also looks like no pitting on the back of the receiver (where often seen), should be good once all back together.
 
Starting Repairs

Well, with prompting from other cgn'ers, I got this show on the road.

First item of business, removing the little lock collar that's deep inside the front half of the bolt body. As I have already drilled out the plunger/connector pin that runs between the two parts of the bolt, and it doesn't seem enthusiastic to budge, I cut it.


Big Mistake. It took me most of the day to correct what I did, and while I learned lots, I could have been smarter by doing (and not doing) a few things.

After I cut the pin, this is roughly how the bolt looked. For the sake of chronological order, ignore the little pin above the bolt and that black spec... I tried to fake a pic I forgot to do earlier:redface:

Note that the cut was made close to the front bolt half section, so that when the plunger broke/was cut through and the spring released, I was free to access the lock collar with a screw driver.
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Unfortunately, I later discovered (while removing the back half of the now un-grippable plunger) a better method. This lifts the rear half of the bolt body free of the plunger, and if the jaws are left slack, will not mar the plunger. If it is scratched, repair with a fine flat file and sand paper will smooth things out.

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Once cut and unscrewed, this is what I had:

Note the itty bitty black speck to the right of the firing pin, near dead center of the rag? Turns out that's what what causing all the problems. It had wedged itself next to the firing pin when it's retaining pin had fallen out (creating a hole, which the sand entered, then jammed, stopping the firing pin from falling out, but also stopping it from reliably functioning... Hence why it would fire occasionally, when this little speck of rock was aligned just right:runaway:. Also accounts for the scratchy noise I heard.)

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Next step was to find a piece of stock metal similar in diameter and length to my now buggered/cut plunger. I found a piece in the shed:
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Next step was to remove the fake chrome coating and trim it a little closer to size. Cut the plunger to roughly double what the plunger will be in the end. I used a hand drill simply because I could get more rpms out of it. A medium metal file and 250 sand paper were used as well (remember to sweep the file across the piece so you don't wear a hole in your file:eek:)

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Next - I completely forgot to take pictures of.:slap:

I held the plunger in vice grips and heated the tip with a propane torch to red hot. I then submerged all but the tip that I was going to be working in cold water to avoid the pin bending when I struck it. ( It makes it easier to work if you have a bucket large enough to get the plyers into, you grip the pin midway up the pin, and tap rather than beat the pin.)

I worked the tip to flare it outwards into a mushroom shape, turning it, and changing the angles of the hammer blows to flare it equally. I had to heat it three times to get it to my satisfaction, and still bent it as I rushed and didn't fully cool the rest of the plunger in my haste before hammering.

In the end you get a rather unsightly uneven flared tip to your plunger. It should be flared larger than the original plunger head, as it will be ground down.


Because I don't have a lathe or a mill, this step instead used a drill press. I mounted the plunger, flare tip exposed in the press. Once turned on I swept the file against the drill rotation, squaring off the head. Then I formed a shoulder where the spring would press against the back of the head by using the file to cut into the flared section of bolt about 2/3 a cm back. As the plunger was a bit bent, I then worked my way up the entire plunger, smoothing it until there were no dark oxidized surface, showing that it had been mostly smoothed and flattened out.

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Here's how the pin fitted after the drill press.

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I wanted as much energy as possible striking the firing pin, so I left a hairs gap between the front and back half of the bolt. Here it looks way wider than it is:
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And ready for firing pin to be fitted and a tool to be made to replace the locking collar thingy (not today).
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Well, got it finished today... Now shoots 2/3 right rather than none. It's a good start, but I think I'm going to make a new bolt for it altogether, as I feel the design's a bit of a weak one. I'll get some pics up later of the tool I made for removal and replacement of the collar.
 
Any chance getting some pics of that tool?
I'm trying to get the firing pin out of a similar bolt and I figure the bolt has to come apart first.
 
Afraid it went when my hard drive emitted the mysterious blue smoke of death.

I'll whip up a paint pic for ya though :p

Here ya are.

Best way to do it is to take a very hard steel, anneal it to soften, grind and bend it, then reharden it. My first wrench was made out of scrap steel and the two claws that took the majority of the tension were prone to bending. I tried hardening them, but the fact that it was cruddy steel just meant it wouldn't harden.

Also, soak the bolt in carb cleaner and some other chemicals first, because if that stupid little collar strips you're not going to be in a happy place.

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