Cooey Repeater- cold blu or gun coat?

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I'm interested in hearing your opinions on cold bluing versus products like gun coat. See my recent post with pics in the Cooey makeover thread: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/551806-The-Cooey-Make-Over-Thread/page42.
I do prefer the look of bluing, but I'm not interested in a finish that's going to soon rub off. BTW, can the barrel be removed from the receiver and is it necessary?
Please share your experiences/techniques on refinishing the steel. Thanks!
 
Ive had pretty good luck with cold blue, but some metals seem to take the bluing better than others. I also blue the parts after they are hot from sitting in boiling water for a couple minutes, I'm not sure if its really neccessary, but it makes me feel better about the job. I usually do about ten applications to get the parts dark enough.
I'll be doing a barrel from a pellet gun the next couple weeks, and may experiment with a homeade cold bluing solution. I figure if I'm not happy with the results I can always do it over again.

Removing the barrel is not neccessary, but getting the parts prepped well and oil free is very important. Don't skimp on a thorough cleaning after it is all taken apart. Do a thorough sanding and polishing with increasingly finer sand paper as every mark and scratch will show after the bluing. Bluing doesn't hide anything, so your patience will pay off if you do a nice job.
 
I too prefer the look of blueing and have had very good success with blueing the barrels on a beretta......but unfortunately not on a Cooey. As mentioned in another post, not all metals will take to the cold blue as well as others. I suspect you may not have very good luck with the cooey either, however, its not an expensive deal to at least give it a try.

The key is to not skimp out on the prep work. Hands down that the most important part. The success I had with the Beretta barrels was a direct result of all the work I put into the prep. The actual blueing process was the easy part. I will also suggest that if you are going to do this over a couple days, depending on which product you are using, you may need to lube the parts before setting it down for the night. Some products like Birchwood Casey super blue will flash rust overnight if not oiled (however G92 does not), and you will literally have to scrub rust off the next day. The beretta I completed got about 6 coats of blueing, and between each coat, the barrels got another good scrub down with degreaser, and a light sanding with steel wool. The sanding with steel wool really helped with each coat of blueing added. The majority of the original blueing was already gone, but I did not remove the factory blueing that remained. The steel wool between coats really help blend the old and new blueing to the point where it was not visible to the naked eye. Once you are completely satisfied with the work, make sure you put a light coat of oil over the entire blued area before you put it back into the safe. Im no chemist, but what I noticed over time was that the oil impregnated into the steel barrels and eventually with a nice solid buffing, the barrels attained a more polished and darker blueing then it previously had. I eventually started using a Birchwood Casey product designed as a coating for rust protection and the barrels looked almost flawless. I was actually very shocked how well the whole project turned out....i really didnt expect much when i started the process.

However, back to the Cooey....nothing described above did anything for the 64B I tried blueing. It didnt look any different coming out of the project then it did going into it. The same steps, prep work, products, and elbow grease.........and nothing. Im not sure if you'll experience the same thing, but I figure it was an important point to note.
 
I've considered a cold blue for a few of my old Cooey's, but every time I do research I just find a lot of negativity, and then I hesitate. I went with a professional baked-on gun kote for one of my repeaters as I displayed in the makeover thread, and while the job perfect and permanent, it was nto what should be considered economical, especially considering the cost of the gun itself.

Gun Kote does have a 'gun blue' colour that looks like an immaculate blue job that should never fail. To me sounds liek the best of both world - looks like the best blue job you can get, and won;t ever wear off or fail. But again - the cost.
 
Don't waste the time cold bluing when for pretty much the same cost you can slow rust blue it yourself at home. Cold blue is really designed for touch ups, not for a complete reblue that you want to be permanent. You don't need to remove the barrel. Google slow rust bluing and there is a short video by midway USA showing it done to a rifle barrel.
http://videos.midwayusa.com/index.php/show/how_to_slow_rust_blue_gun_metal?id=1_aqgi5ddp

This is just a brief video. There is lots of info on slow rust bluing. Remember that proper preparation is the key. Do a crappy job at the prep and it's going to show.
 
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"...cold bluing..." Isn't made for whole firearms. It's made for touch ups. Doesn't provide the same kind of rust prevention the original finish or one of the newer finishes will either.
"...a finish that's going to soon rub off..." Any kind of bluing, cold or otherwise will do that. It's not a terrribly durable finish.
"...slow rust blue..." Colossal waste of time and effort on a Cooey.
 
"...cold bluing..." Isn't made for whole firearms. It's made for touch ups. Doesn't provide the same kind of rust prevention the original finish or one of the newer finishes will either.
"...a finish that's going to soon rub off..." Any kind of bluing, cold or otherwise will do that. It's not a terrribly durable finish.
"...slow rust blue..." Colossal waste of time and effort on a Cooey.[/QUOTE]

Why is it a waste of time if he does it himself, wants to refinish it as a project and wants it looking better? Beats wasting time sitting in front of a TV. It really has nothing to do with the value of the gun unless he was paying to have it done. If paying, I wouldn't bother but for something to do at home, why not.
 
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