Cooey/Savage 64 Questions
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It will have a plastic mag rather then the keyhole shaped white-metal mags in the newer rifles.
Kit is 80 bucks: https://shooterschoice.com/shop/402...27-accessories/cooey-64b-magazine-conversion/
I looked at buying an older rifle for a project, but add the cost of this replacement kit to the cheapest one I could find, and it was more money than a brand new one. So, I bought a new one: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2370633-22-Calibre-Action-Shooting-64B-Project
I am happy with it. All steel other than the alloy mag well; and made in Canada... which is more than you can say for a Ruger... and they need a crap-load of modifications to work well too.
Rugers were good, but judging by what I have been seeing lately, they all need new receivers, barrels, stocks, triggers, oh, and mag conversions if you want to run any more than 10 rounds.
Also two years ago at our national range day there were a couple newer 10/22s; both had feeding and mag issues...
Starting price is 2 x the cost of a 64 with a steel receiver rather than Rugers alloy one. Take them apart side by side, look at them... Rugers should sell for no more than the Savage. Same goes for a Ruger American .22 and Savage Mk II. Savage are Canadian made.
Ruger gets some things right; I love my GP100; best revolver built in North America.
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I have Savage 64 and Ruger 10/22. Both shoot well, but I like the Ruger birch stock better. I suppose I could get a Boyd stock for the 64, but haven't spent the money on it yet.
Right now I'm on the fence between take-downs. 64 take-down can be had for much less than 10/22, but 10/22 with Magpul stock is pretty nice. Such first world problems.
Right now I'm on the fence between take-downs. 64 take-down can be had for much less than 10/22, but 10/22 with Magpul stock is pretty nice. Such first world problems.
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- Western Manitoba
This target was shot a few days ago with an elderly "Cooey - Model 64B - 22 CAL L.R. MFG. BY WINCHESTER - COBOURG, ONT., CANADA" - with the white metal detachable magazine - I had just mounted a 2-7 power scope. I was "sighting it in" at about 25 paces with CCI Mini-Mags - so about what I would expect. I can not explain that low left side hole - but it was the second round fired out of those 5 rounds. I think I went through about 40 rounds that day - this was the last five shot grouping.
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When I first got mine I put an old Bush 3-9x40 (not rimfire) and got these at 25y (the Champion target). Now I have a red-dot reflex for quick shots. On the 25y, the vertical bars are offhand, the Horiz are off bench. The 50-yd plate is also with the red-dot. Still love that gun 
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I believe the plastic mag versions were actually a 64A, as opposed to the 64B, which came with the metal mag.
I may be completely out to lunch, but that is my understanding. As for the 64’s in general. There’s nothing wrong with them, other than the fact that you have to remove the barrel to pull the bolt for a detailed cleaning, but I’ve seen some that were still running that had never seen a proper cleaning. They are decently accurate, and dependable. They can sometimes be a little finicky with mags, but often just need to be “worn in” to the gun. Parts are plentiful, and repairs, if ever required, are easy. Let’s face it, if they weren’t a good reliable rifle they would not have been around for as long as they have. They may not be as popular as the Rugers or even the Remingtons, but a lot of that has to do with a limited mag capacity, and a lack of aftermarket parts that can turn them into a whiz-bang “assault-style” rifle that can shoot to the moon.
I may be completely out to lunch, but that is my understanding. As for the 64’s in general. There’s nothing wrong with them, other than the fact that you have to remove the barrel to pull the bolt for a detailed cleaning, but I’ve seen some that were still running that had never seen a proper cleaning. They are decently accurate, and dependable. They can sometimes be a little finicky with mags, but often just need to be “worn in” to the gun. Parts are plentiful, and repairs, if ever required, are easy. Let’s face it, if they weren’t a good reliable rifle they would not have been around for as long as they have. They may not be as popular as the Rugers or even the Remingtons, but a lot of that has to do with a limited mag capacity, and a lack of aftermarket parts that can turn them into a whiz-bang “assault-style” rifle that can shoot to the moon.
NovaNewfie
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- Advocate Hbr NS
The model 64 Cooey, is that what used to be referred to as the rabbit gun? They had a rabbit embossed on the pistol grip? I believe I have 4 or 5 of them here. One was my grandfather's. The rest just appeared over time. A couple have plastic mags and I think 3 have alum mags. One maybe a Lakefield. I've never had them shoot reliably, I just assumed it was the nature of the #### ammo. I don't think I've shot any of them in the last 15-20 years. Maybe they all just needed taken down and cleaned. I know one of mine turned into a wall hanger. It's got a 6" split in the barrel and the washer or retainer broke off the back of the rod that holds the main spring. It was non functional when I got it.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
I have a Winchester-Cooey Model 600 that has the rabbit engraved in the pistol grip checkering - is a bolt action, with tube magazine under the barrel. Not quite the same trigger guard or attachment between the stock and barrelled action, but most of the "guts" of the operating mechanism look to be similar to a Cooey Model 60. As I understand, the Model 600 with rabbit, was made after Winchester bought the Cooey company, but the piece was still being made in Cobourg, Ontario. I did not know that any of them, with the rabbit engraved on the stock, had a detachable magazine.
The Cooey 64B that I was just playing with, was a semi-auto with 10-round detachable magazine - was no images engraved on that stock. With Win 555 or Remington "Golden Bullet" bulk packs, I would get at least one or three failures to feed in every magazine full - the CCI Mini-Mags fed several magazine loads without issue. Every round that I did get chambered, did fire.
squirrelshooter
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- Near Sudbury, Ont.
I’ve got an old Cooey 64 that I installed the mag conversion on and still never got it to shoot more than 2 shots in a row without a misfire. I recently bought a new Savage 64 and it shoots great! Enough that I went out and bought another! They are inexpensive and been good to me so far. I installed a ProMag stock on one so it fits in my backpack when I’m hiking
I put a promag on mine also; for a club level .22 2 gun match. I like it, but had to put a riser on it for the reflex sight/back-up sights I have installed.
It likes ammo on the hotter side... Win Super X HP, Mini-Mag, Stingers; runs flawless with these.
I have handled but never shot a Security 6. Regarding the GP100, I compared mine side by side with a new Colt Python at our club last week. The GP100 has a better trigger, it is finished nicer. The owner of the Python said he wished he had bought a GP100 instead. To late now.
Back in the mid 70's I was in the market for a semi-auto for night hunting raccoon. I wanted a 1022, but money was tight, and those who had one considered them "too nice" for coon hunting and had a cheap rifle for this kind of hunting. I followed suit and bought a Nylon 66 for $75.00 a whole $30 less than the GP100, and way lighter than it or the cooey 64. Not a target rifle, but it killed more than 1000 raccoon over about 4 years.
The newer ones can be upgraded with MCarbo parts. These upgrades are inexpensive and do add some reliability. Accuracy will be about the same or a bit better then pre-modified parts. Bolt & barrel needs to be cleaned from time to time.
