Cool Stag Upper

[Paulinski]

Here's what our friends down south can purchase

Limited Edition MPI Tested Upper 14.5"

Features:

1. 14.5" MPI Tested M4 profile barrel
2. 1/7 5.56 NATO chrome lined barrel
3. T-Marked upper receiver
4. M4 HG's
5. MPI Tested bolt & carrier group
6. Charging handle
7. Side sling swivel
8. Phantom FS
9. Military M16 manual
10. Fold out diagram chart

 

[DMeNTED]

I dunno... I wouldn't call it "cool".

 

[Paulinski]

One mans treasue its another mans garbage.....Nuff said

 

[Westicle]

Here's what our friends down south can purchase

you can own the same thing up here pretty much under the same conditions, you have to be a LEO or MILITARY person to own one in the USA unless you get a Tax Stamp for SBR's.

 

[IntelGDR691]

Here, you can get as short as 7.5" AR.... For one time, it is better here than there....

 

[mebiuspower]

So they have to get some sort of permit to buy SBRs? Am I right that you can't own SBRs due to bans in certain states (ie. NY)?

 

[kirill]

So they have to get some sort of permit to buy SBRs? Am I right that you can't own SBRs due to bans in certain states (ie. NY)?

Shotguns with barrels under 18" and Rifles with barrels under 16" require registration and a $200 tax stamp, and are not legal in all states (Commiefornia, NY etc)

 

[Armedsask]

So what's so special about this upper?

 

[canucklehead]

I think it's just a close to TRUE M4 upper as you can get.

Meh. No biggie. My M4gery is almost identical, but with OD green furniture and 1/9 barrel.

 

[Paulinski]

Exactly what Greentips said. All barrels should be magnetic particle tested.

 

[Westicle]

pop quiz, dangertree should be able to answer this but are ALL STAG arms complete rifles run they all the goverment acceptence tests..... ??

 

[Paulinski]

Stag test their bolts but besides that I don't know.

 

[IntelGDR691]

Stag is good, nothing exceptionnal, but to get real mil. specs M4, you gotta put the extra money and go for Lewis Machine & Tool (LMT). That is why SOCOM and other SF get their rifles from them.

 

[Shazam]

Dumb question but isnt the milspec test a bit of overkill for a 5 round limited, non fully auto, Canadian range gun?

 

[IntelGDR691]

Yeah, but why do people buy Ferrari when the speed limit is 100KPH...Maybe it is a dumb answer but it is the same analogy. We buy fine things for the fun of having the best and knowing what kind of performances it can achieve

 

[dangertree]

Those are M4 replacement uppers with an AR-15 bolt carrier. CMT/Stag is a US "DOD Authorized Rebuild Facility" for the M4. They also do M16 -> M4 fleet conversions for various countries. They released a small number (150?) of those as a 'Special Edition' SA upper last year.

There are a few completes with this upper in Canada, they are still available in Canada for LEO/MIL members.

Edit. Re, what's tested. I had a conversation with the owner about this, but last year, if I can recall the details, all bolts are proofed/MP inspected, because they have contracts that require it and it's beneficial, same with the 14.5" barrels, required by contract. Otherwise, they've never had a barrel burst, and don't feel it's necessary to MPI barrels for semi-autos.

2nd Edit: Wes, Regular barrels are 4140, chrome lined, not HPT/MPI. Govt acceptance requires 4150, chrome lined, HPT/MPI, and marked as such (C, MP).

3rd Edit: Found this on the 'puter, your some bathroom reading. M4 Acceptance guide. 370K http://www.armseast.com/m4milspec.pdf

Regards,
DT

 

[Leg]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if that Phantom was pinned than this upper would be completely legal to import into Canada and sell to civies, yes, no? The reason that I ask is that people are starting to ask some pretty outrageous prices for the short barrels that are in country at the moment.

 

[dangertree]

Leg,

I'm inclined to agree with you. But, our guys tried and were told no. US Domestic law and DOS export 'directives' don't need to meet up. You never know what the future will bring though.

DT