Cooper/Blaser Virtues?

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I'm in the market for a new deer rifle in .270 win or 7mm-08. I've been looking at two rifles
- Cooper of Montana M54
- Blaser R93
I'd like to generate comments on their relative virtues, as well any quality wood stocked rifles I should consider.
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I'll make the decision harder for you by throwing a few more options you might want to look into:

Kimber SuperAmerica if you want something at that level. Beautiful fit and finish, very well made. Slender and light, yet very solid feeling.

Sauer S 202 is another to consider if you like upscale rifles. I've yet to cycle an action as smooth.

I'll say the Sauer is the more upscale of the two but the Kimber is a very classy, attractive rifle which is extremely light yet nicely balanced.

I still don't know if I'm comfortable with the operation of the R93 but I've only fired 3 rounds from one. Might be a personal thing, might be something I'd warm up to after some practice. Tough to say.
 
In this price range, the nicest bolt gun that I've seen is the Dakota, hands down, Prophet River on this site, seems to always have some Coopers with really super wood and he's a good guy to deal with. Those would be my 2 picks, save your sheckles my friend.
 
Thanks Guys, I was at a dealer that carries Dakota, to have a look at the Cooper Western Classic, and the Dakota was not suggested. Wish it would have been, very nice. I have seen the Sauer S 202 and like it. I agree the the Blaser's action would take getting used to, but with that action is is short for overall barrel length. It felt quick.
 
I'll second the kimber. I have a super america in .338win and it's a gorgeous rifle, also I have a .243 classic select with the french walnut and it's a very nice rifle. The classics that I own are also nice rifles but I like the french wood. I also have several coopers, they are darn nice rifles too. The coopers are a little heavier and come with detachable mag, the kimbers are light and IMHO have a nicer trigger. The kimber S.A. will be similar price to a cooper custom classic while the kimber select and classic will be considerably less. Kimbers are pillar and glass bedded, I think they have way more bang for the buck than a new rem CDL or sako 85. The cooper is a classy rifle though. I can't decide between kimbers and coopers so I have had to buy both! :)

Dakota's are great looking rifles, hopefully remignton doesn't ruin them. Perhaps you might consider a full custom? Pick your action, select your own blank and have it built to YOUR specs, not somebody elses. At the price point of a sauer, dakota, or western classic cooper your not too far off a custom, except for the wait.
 
What about a new Steyr-Mannlicher? They build fine rifles and are quite unique in the looks department.

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Clay at prophet river carries all kinds of coopers and he can get you a dakota, or just about anything you want.

On another note, the new production Mauser rifles are quite nice also.
 
You have some great taste!

For me it’s between the Cooper and Sauer...I would pass on the Blaser. Honestly, I will own both Coopers and Sauers at some point but if I had to pick one I would go with the Cooper (I think).
 
Go with the Blaser. You will not be disappointed. I sold my Cooper. I sold my Kimber. I sold my Voere. I sold all my Weatherby's. I sold my Sako and my Encore collection. All because a Blaser does it better. The trigger should be enough to convince you, but there is a reason it was named most significant advancement in rifles in the last century by a couple of the writers at some of the shooting mags (regarding bolt actions). Van Zwoll wrote a really good review of it.
 
Thanks Guys for all your input.

After putting my hands on the guns again I'm back to the Cooper M54 and the Blaser R93 with slight leaning toward the Blaser.
 
I have aBlaser 93 which I recently purchased in 7mm-08.I m currently waiting on a 22mag rimfire kit for it and next year a 223 barrel, that should cover things for a bit.It s a do all rifle
 
CreamySmooth said:
Go with the Blaser. You will not be disappointed. I sold my Cooper. I sold my Kimber. I sold my Voere. I sold all my Weatherby's. I sold my Sako and my Encore collection. All because a Blaser does it better. The trigger should be enough to convince you, but there is a reason it was named most significant advancement in rifles in the last century by a couple of the writers at some of the shooting mags (regarding bolt actions). Van Zwoll wrote a really good review of it.
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yup, thats my flavor of icecream for sure!...i went on a bit of a buying spree before i even knew about blaser r93's...or the new r8's might need a look see also if shopping now....i sure wish i knew about the blasers back then, they are just a tool to me and don't think anything designed as well/functional as the r93, i would add a few barrels to cover bases and hunt may azz off rest of life and call it done....will see if i get a chance to go down that road...beware of the one rifle man...how good would you get with one when you had the rimfire kits, your predator calling barrels and some big game barrels and you just slapped on the one you needed etc....like i said, i wish i knew about them before i went spendy on bunch of other rifles....r93 professional for me, inletted with a safari or varmint barrel first barrel so no matter what barrel i bought after i wouldn't need to have stock inletted....so probably would have ordered a .308 or .223 varmint off the hop, then i would add more sheep oriented caliber and rimfire kit and then a 375 h&h at some point too...
 
Here's another vote for the Blaser. Kimbers in my experience are a bit hit-or-miss in their quality control. Coopers are supposedly great, I have no experience. But the Blaser is so well-designed, so easy to travel with, so accurate and so fast and easy to operate that I would never go back to a traditional bolt gun for serious hunting. As my gun collection (accumulation?) continues to be distilled down to its final configuration, I know the Blaser will continue as my primary hunting rifle.

John
 
Pretty strong praise for the Blaser, I was looking at one in Wanstall’s (they have 2 in stock) today, got to admit they are really slick. I still love Coopers but I certainly see how and why the Blaser is getting so much attention.
 
blakeyboy said:
yup, thats my flavor of icecream for sure!...i went on a bit of a buying spree before i even knew about blaser r93's...or the new r8's might need a look see also if shopping now....i sure wish i knew about the blasers back then, they are just a tool to me and don't think anything designed as well/functional as the r93, i would add a few barrels to cover bases and hunt may azz off rest of life and call it done....will see if i get a chance to go down that road...beware of the one rifle man...how good would you get with one when you had the rimfire kits, your predator calling barrels and some big game barrels and you just slapped on the one you needed etc....like i said, i wish i knew about them before i went spendy on bunch of other rifles....r93 professional for me, inletted with a safari or varmint barrel first barrel so no matter what barrel i bought after i wouldn't need to have stock inletted....so probably would have ordered a .308 or .223 varmint off the hop, then i would add more sheep oriented caliber and rimfire kit and then a 375 h&h at some point too...
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Im not so sure about the R8 yet. Im sure its great rifle... but I can only imagine what a "clip" costs when the trigger is integrated. Imagine losing one! Probably 300 bucks....

I have a .308 and a .257 Bee w/Professional stock. I'm now looking at a .308 target barrel and a .375 H+H and I figure after that, Ill be buying black rifles.... cause I won't be looking at hunting guns again. I cant say enough for the rifle. It shoots 1/2 MOA when I'm "on". Longest white tail at 487 with the .308. Coyote at over 500 with the bee. But I think there was some luck there. :)
 
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