Cooper Rifles
- Thread starter roche1982
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Go to Prophet River Firearms web site for the information regarding current pricing of Cooper Rifles.
Expensive but worth every penny IMHO.
RC
Expensive but worth every penny IMHO.
RC
take a look on the phophet river site. can be very costly with upgraded wood. i have one in 280 and will be buying another in 7stw in the new year. as you should expect i have done nothing to my 280 other than shoot. trigger is good really no need to fix anything. not fussy and mine will shoot 120 to 160 grn bullets very well.
Call prophet river for a price. I have one in 25-06. Fit and finish is as nice as it gets. Mine shoots everything Ive shot out of it very well. Well worth the money. IMO Montana rifle co products are a step or two below a cooper. They are built off a Winchester mod 70 action.
I can say check with Prophet River. I bought a LH cooper and a LH Montana from them. The fit of the wood is better on the Coopers and the accuracy is The bolt is smooth. I really like the Montana action and the drop floor plate. My Montana didn't meet my accuracy expectations but Clay is sending it back. You can't judge all rifles by one and if they come through would be tempted to buy more Montanas just because of the smooth controlled round feed and the fit of the stock for me.
Neil
Neil
Whats wrong with the mod 70, isn't montana designed off the Mauser action same as the 70. Claw extractor and control round feed?
I've got a couple of Coopers; a Classic in 30-06 and a Western Classic in 7mm STW. They are very good rifles but whether they are worth the money is a matter of opinion. One thing about them is when you pay for them you're done paying. There's no paying for trigger jobs or bedding or otherwise finishing building it. If you order it you'll got your specified LOP which is a few more bucks you'll save. If I remember right my 30-06 was about 2200, I can't remember if that was with the spare clip or not. Just by the luck of the draw the wood on that one is a little better than what you'd expect on the baseline rifle. Its probably worth it, compared to a Sako or Weatherby or others in that price range.
The Western Classic I'm not as sure about. Its also a good rifle but when you start doubling the price over the base model then value is a real matter of opinion. Much will depend on how much value you put on Turnbull colour case hardening, mirror shine and claro walnut. I'm not sure that it was worth it. I've got a few rifles that have stock figuring that blow the WC away for 1/4 of the price, and its really not that hard to find cheaper rifles that shoot. I'll go with not worth it in this case, although mine isn't going anywhere.
The Montana rifle is way over-rated as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather have my Winchesters than my Montana. The Montana is a step below the Winchester never mind a Cooper. Its not in the same league.
There isn't much wrong with the design of the Montana, it's the execution. Its basically a cast copy of a M70 Winchester with enough crudeness for a couple of savages. How they promote it as a high end gun baffles me.
Thanks for saving me the better part of $1500. I was gonna give one a whirl, but think I will keep my money in my pocket instead.
I have a Cooper. The model 52 classic, and the fit and finish is superior to my Sako. I feel that the money I spent on my Cooper was well spent, although they've taken a jump since when I made the purchase. I have no experience with Montana rifles...
I tend rationalize better quality rifles like optics: It's a curve.. Basic rifles/optics are cheap and feel that way, the other end of the scale have a higher dollar to quality ratio - in that you pay more, but see smaller differences. For example you can purchase a set of Nikon Monarch binos for $300 and get a pretty darned nice set that do the job great, or you can go all out and pick up the Swaros for 2k + and enjoy the finer points of the binoculars - but the Swaros aren't 7 times better. They both do a good job...
Trick is finding your sweet spot in the quality/price balance. Make sense?
I tend rationalize better quality rifles like optics: It's a curve.. Basic rifles/optics are cheap and feel that way, the other end of the scale have a higher dollar to quality ratio - in that you pay more, but see smaller differences. For example you can purchase a set of Nikon Monarch binos for $300 and get a pretty darned nice set that do the job great, or you can go all out and pick up the Swaros for 2k + and enjoy the finer points of the binoculars - but the Swaros aren't 7 times better. They both do a good job...
Trick is finding your sweet spot in the quality/price balance. Make sense?
There is nothing wrong with a model 70 action, I think your better off to buy a Winchester that will probably shoot better for a lot less money
Have you that are knocking the Montana complaining about one completed by the Montana Rifle co or some of the ones built by gunsmiths? I've seen the montana actions prior to be cleaned up because they come fairly. The ones built by Corlanes were another matter Very smooth and slick. Some of the ones built by gunsmiths were as rough as the Rugers. I wanted to check out the completed rifle before bying one. The action is as slick as any model 70 and way better than the left hand actions that were produced at the end. They are a great action IMHO but I can see someone criticizing The the older rifles that seemed quite rough. Check out the ones that clay has. The stock on the ASR appears to be a boyd's prairie hunter or something on that line. For me the stock is much more comfortable than the classic style stock.
The cooper is a step up although I do not like the shape of there wood stocks.
My $.02 worth.
The cooper is a step up although I do not like the shape of there wood stocks.
My $.02 worth.
We were shooting a friend's Montana rifle last week. Rougher than #### and over headspace right out of the box. If they cant at least polish the casting marks off the action you'd think that they would at least make it safe.
Shooter_01
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For the folks that own Coopers, how do the stocks feel? Looking online, they appear bulky or thick, particularly the forestock. I'm very intrigued by these rifles, but don't really have the opportunity to handle one in person. How would it compare in feel to my FN M70 Featherweight?
Much appreciated.
Much appreciated.
Shooter_01
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- Durham Region, Ontario
Should note, I'm referring to the "classic" stock style.
I found the same glitch in both of my Coopers. The extractor touched the inside of the receiver ring and would bind when extracting a fired case. The bolt would lift normally then sometimes need a tug to get it coming back. To make it worse it got worse on hotter loads which at first made me think that it was poor extraction due to a tight or rough chamber. The first rifle it was just annoying but the second was bad enough that I had to hunt the problem down. The first rifle had a chamber tight enough that small base dies are necessary and the second chamber was a little rough.
Its an easy and free fix, and easy to find if it occurs to you to check for it. What I don't see is how that ever got past the test firing, which makes me wonder if there was ever any real accuracy testing done in the first place.
Its an easy and free fix, and easy to find if it occurs to you to check for it. What I don't see is how that ever got past the test firing, which makes me wonder if there was ever any real accuracy testing done in the first place.
It's a hefty rifle, but I like it that way. The traditional American stock fits me well, and I like the balance of the rifle... Mine's in 30-06, and I have no need to duplicate that caliber again in my safe - this one's a keeper.
I find the classic stock to fit just right, the for end isn't overly thick but it isn't thin, If you have smaller hands you may not find it as comfterble to hold as someone with larger hands. I am very happy with the product that cooper puts out
