CORE related ethics question.

[Mr. Friendly]

hi. reading thru the CORE manual ahead of the course start date (Monday, May 5th) I've come upon something that boggles my mind and ask for some clarification.

at the very end of the chapter on ethics is has the following statement, "After a hunter has shot animal and it is dead, they must cancel their species license BEFORE handling the animal."

if you're in the middle of nowhere, days out from civilization and happen to be a non-cell phone owner/carrier, how can this be expected of you? cleaning and cooling the animal is of paramount importance, it would be unethical to leave it and let it rot, to ensure your license is cancelle!

btw, the incorrect grammar bit about how a 'hunter has shot animal' is in the manual. I just bought it yesterday (April 28th) and it's print date is 2007 so I'm going to guess it should be up to date and corrected.

what's what? clarification please!

 

[7.62mm]

What they mean by canceling the species license, is to notch the date, time etc. on the tag that you have with you, and apply it to the animal. You don't have to call anywhere, or anyone "right away" except in Ontario, you must call in a turkey kill, by 12:00 pm of the next day. Maybe it is different out in BC, but I doubt it.

 

[Mr. Friendly]

ahhhh! thank you very much Mr. MM

where do they usually apply it to the animal? by apply, is it a sticker or something that gets stapled on the hide? if it's stapled, I'd assume they'd avoid stapling the head/ear if they wish to keep it as a trophy.

 

[7.62mm]

Female Deer, moose, Elk etc., usually slit the ear, and pass the tag through that, antlered types, you can wrap the antler. Bears I believe get a slit through the ear, or through the jaw. Turkey's get wrapped around the leg. this is all Ontario regs., your MMV

 

[scott]

don't you just mark your licence and stick it back into your pocket?.

 

[fisherking]

I think the license stays with the hunter and animal till he gets it home.

 

[Icon]

Each province is different.

BC-: You carry a hunting "Booklet" that contains your primary hunting license along with a page for each species tag you purchase. On that tag are triangles a long the outside of the page that indicate date, ### of species... etc. When you are successful, you are to use a knife and notch out the proper triangles for the kill. That's it. Make sure you keep your booklet with you.

Alberta -: You get a species tag that is more like a sticker along with a metal "coat hanger" type of apperatus that is open on one end. When successful, you are to cut a hole in the hind leg above the knee joint for ungulates and in the ear for other species. The metal piece goes through the hole and then the sticker goes over the metal to close the open end.

Sask-: You are give a tag that is like a sticker, but it is also in three parts. One tag for the head, one for the hide and one for the meat.

Man-: Pretty sure you also get a three part tag like Sask, but it is not a sticker. They have holes for putting on a string and then on to the animal.

Other provinces I have not hunted in, so I don't know how they tag their animals.

 

[Icon]

Sorry, back to your original question.

You need to use the hunting tag in the way intended for your animal before handling it. This means you cannot move it away from the kill site (moving it to better attach tags is okay within reason) or start gutting the animal or take pictures or make phone calls to all your buddies, etc, before you tag the animal.

This of course is the legal interpretation of the law. If a CO officer were to observe you doing anything other than tagging the animal, then they could charge you with poaching. In all reality, I sometimes will gut the animal first so blood doesn't get on the tags, but I always put on the tags before moving or transporting.

 

[bone-collector]

wow even I am getting confused to many rules in different provinces


here in BC were the question applies at the moment, you must cut your tag as said there are little triangles in your hunting licence book, 1 will be ### of animal, 1 will be region you killed the animal, 1 will be day of the month and 1 will be the month, also note it is your responsibility to fill out the first page in your licence book before you go hunting, unfilled out ould result in a fine if you run into a #### for a CO, also be sure your cutting the propper triangles for that speacies impropper cut tags also cary a fine, its not hard and fairly self explanitory, but in the heat of a kill it can be a pain in the butt, we do not have tags that attach to the animal in BC so thats not of concern,

ask foxer if he has a old book with cancelled tags in it so you can see what its all about, and the front page with your info on it

 

[MD]

It is no big deal, like guys said; in BC all you have to do is cut out the appropriate triangles out of your tag.

But do it right. I need glasses now and wasn't reading the tag right and accidently cut out Region 6 when I was in region 2 one time when I shot a bear on June 6.

And you CAN get in heck or get fined for details . One friend was criticized and nearly got a ticket for having blood on his canceled tag and the C.O. accused him of canceling the tag after gutting the animal not before.

And there was an article in the paper some years ago written by a reporter following a C.O. around for the day and the officer wrote out a ticket to a young guy who had shot his very first deer and was still standing by it without the canceled tag when the C.O. showed up.

It only takes a minute.

 

[MiG25]

yeah, in BC all that is required is to cut out triangles in the little book. cutting or tearing is not enough (because guys used to pin them on their dash in case they were stopped so all they had to do was pull them off and they would be torn in the right places, so the story goes anyways).

 

[MiG25]

And you CAN get in heck or get fined for details . One friend was criticized and nearly got a ticket for having blood on his canceled tag and the C.O. accused him of canceling the tag after gutting the animal not before.

i have had them soaked in blood after the book fell out of my shirt pocket while dressing the animal.

 

[2fat2fly]

In Sask, you pretty much have to dress the animal before you can apply the meat seal, but you are supposed to cut your seals before you start cutting the critter. You can be charged if you don't cut the seals immediately, but practically, only if your a dickhead to the CO, or if you have a history of poaching, or other activities that the CO's would be watching you for.