Core15 and NEA
- Thread starter MightyPotty
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Thanks. I knew about the rod thing, but hadn't heard about the rifling only part, which was why I wondered about the chamber.
Is there anything in writing about permanently attached muzzle devices, or is it more along the lines of CFO type "rulings"? How would they measure it using a rod if the muzzle device can't be removed?
Regards.
Mark
Is there anything in writing about permanently attached muzzle devices, or is it more along the lines of CFO type "rulings"? How would they measure it using a rod if the muzzle device can't be removed?
Regards.
Mark
Davy Crockett
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- Location
- Fraser Valley
Who said that?
It seems like a low cost, made in canada solution that lacks a bit on the finish side and has teething issues but other than that what is there to complain about?
I don't own one yet but I think I may buy one just to support their initiative.
Mark, if the muzzle device is machined integral with the barrel (like the AR180B) it is included in the barrel length. If the muzzle device is machined from a separate piece of material it is not included in the barrel length regardless of whether it is permanently attached or not.
Their facebook page says its from their South Africa dealer day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2f_0nZt-cI&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2f_0nZt-cI&feature=youtu.be
Thanks 8 ball.
I gathered that from Claven's post, but have not actually seen it in writing, so I wondered if it was part of the act or some reg made up after the fact that could be changed.
I was also curious how a barrel would physically be measured with a device attached, if you couldn't mark the rod. Would you have to remove the device to measure?
Regards.
Mark
I gathered that from Claven's post, but have not actually seen it in writing, so I wondered if it was part of the act or some reg made up after the fact that could be changed.
I was also curious how a barrel would physically be measured with a device attached, if you couldn't mark the rod. Would you have to remove the device to measure?
Regards.
Mark
- Location
- 54°52'56"N 112°10'7"W Alpha Bravo
Claven you really should do more fact checking before you post.
First, as has already been said, Core offers many other versions of their rifle including DI versions.
Second, Cores piston guns do not use a proprietary system, their design includes your standard Adams Arms piston kit. AA supplies Core with their piston systems and since AA is fairly common in Canada now, there shouldn't be any issues finding replacement parts (If necessary)
Core does make a fine rifle, they use standard mil-spec forgings and use decent quality NA parts. It should also be mentioned that their receivers (upper & lower) are 7076. I'd put Core on par with other small manufacturers like CMMG, Rock River Arms and perhaps Spikes.
First, as has already been said, Core offers many other versions of their rifle including DI versions.
Second, Cores piston guns do not use a proprietary system, their design includes your standard Adams Arms piston kit. AA supplies Core with their piston systems and since AA is fairly common in Canada now, there shouldn't be any issues finding replacement parts (If necessary)
Core does make a fine rifle, they use standard mil-spec forgings and use decent quality NA parts. It should also be mentioned that their receivers (upper & lower) are 7076. I'd put Core on par with other small manufacturers like CMMG, Rock River Arms and perhaps Spikes.
They had both at reliable. I took a look at them and I do agree about the piston system. I'm not a fan of piston AR rifles. Unless you're going super short, then I have no use for them. The DI one had excellent fit/finish on the upper and lower. On par with my LMT, or Armalite in terms of the lower and upper forgings and look of the finish. I'm not saying anything about the internals just the outside. The piston AR rifles felt large and clunky compared to the DI. The DI looked like a decent deal.
But.. right now there are a lot of decent deals out there on known manufacturers (Which may be due to the NEA and Core rifles hitting our markets). So saving one to two hundred might not be worth it. Tough decisions. I've been watching these rifles for a while now. I'm looking forward to more reports. Hopefully I'll get to pick some more reasonably priced ARs in the future. It's like a disease, you can't just own one or two.
Umm... perhaps something has changed in the last 6 months since I last looked at this in depth, but I do NOT believe Adams Arms is a "standard" anything. There are, last I checked, at least SIX major manufacturers of piston conversion kits, none of them compatible with each other.
The US army is/was running a competition to select a piston conversion for the M4, but I hand't heard they selected anything at this stage. If they have selected Adams Arms, then I stand corrected - but I don't think that is the case.
In any event, once the US Army makes its choice, everything else will disappear like vapour and the army kit will become the de-facto standard in the industry - I guarantee it.
I also have not claimed Core is bad AR. I only have reservations about buying one until some get out in the wild and are evaluated by actual shooters. I think that at present the sample size is rather small - limited to dealers and friends.
Not to start an argument with you, but mil spec is 7075-T6, not 7076. Also, the core rifles I have seen had a serrated mag well front - that is not a milspec feature.
And yes, I know this doesn't make it any less of a rifle.
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- 54°52'56"N 112°10'7"W Alpha Bravo
Typo on the 7075, that is what I meant.
Adams arms is a pretty common piston kit up here, I've seen lots of them. Not sure what the US army has to do with this topic but never the less it wouldn't be hard to find parts, which was my original point to your initial observation.
I think just Claven is a NEA fanboi or an employee because he has nothing good to say about the Core rifles and swears up and down about NEA. How can you make some comments about something you don't own?
Proof
http://canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=646177
Proof
http://canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=646177
ok, guys, to set the record straight - I DO NOT WORK FOR NEA! lol...
I personally believe buying Canadian made and supported AR15's if you live in Canada is a good idea, but that's it.
I'm sure the Core is a functional AR. If they are around long enough to prove themselves, I may even buy one one day.
And yes, for a forged 7075-T6 Ar, Aero Precision is VERY difficult to improve upon
I personally believe buying Canadian made and supported AR15's if you live in Canada is a good idea, but that's it.
I'm sure the Core is a functional AR. If they are around long enough to prove themselves, I may even buy one one day.
And yes, for a forged 7075-T6 Ar, Aero Precision is VERY difficult to improve upon
Pictures say a 1000 words.
So we will let them speak for them selves:
I sort of get this feeling when I try to deciede;
So we will let them speak for them selves:
Here are some in house pics....
CORE 15 M4 Gas
CORE 15 M4 Piston
Adams ARMS Piston conversion
Gary
Either way you will have a nice rig me personaly I can't make up my mind on 1 or the other and then there is LMT at the lowest prices I have seen in year's.I am receive in mails today riffle from capitalist country of Canada, make by NEA. They are calls it NEA-15. I have take picture for you, komrades.
Firstly, here is unassuming box. He is surely not a riffle!
But inside is riffle! Instead of use cosmoline, Capitalist Pig-Dogs like to show their supposed superiority with expensive Packing Peanuts.
I take him out of box and I look at him, he is very much a black riffle. Include in box is warranty (pheh! Riffle made in great motherland has no warranty because riffle made in great motherland will NEVER BREAK) and small poker chip, perhaps a symbol of capitalists taking moneys from their proletariat.
Here is Gryphon which has been emblazoned on lower receiver.
And look! here they are say many times NEA.
(There are oils here in last photograph which has caused expensive Packing Peanut to melt into letter. I can clean him out with my teeth later)
Here is viewing of bolt carrier group through magwell. Clean inside! Like new Lada.
And they have make number on mounting rail because they are stupid and will not remember where to put scope! Stupid capitalist.
Here is inside of railed forend... maybe make nubs for cooling off?
Here are the insides. Lower receiver separate from upper.
Handle for Charging and Bolt Carrier Group.
And here you can see Polygonalic Riffling (That why they call it a riffle!)
And here is he with his accessories, and my friend mister Beer.
Overall I am say that this riffle is very solid and well-made. However, as there is no machining marks I propose that Capitalists are make waste of their labor by spending too much time on making riffle "pretty" when poorly ground and hammered riffle will shoot as well. Also as I understand riffle is cost well over One Thousand of dollars (even tens more!), which is plenty enough to equip large fighting force for Motherland.
Do not forget: While Canada is more socialist than dog-sucking American pig-goats, they still are Capitalist devils to the core, which can be clearly seen by this riffle!
Гражданин, Komrades!
I sort of get this feeling when I try to deciede;
