Cost of registered sporting clays

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I am curious to know how much it costs to shoot registered sporting clays in other areas of Canada. In Alberta 200 registered targets usually cost about $145.00. This usually includes lunch, medals and some prizes. I know of two clubs that charge $105.00 and $120.00 and I know of one club that tried to charge $170.00. An article in December Sporting Clays Magazine reported that some clubs in the US are having great success in attracting new shooters with 100 registered target events for $35.00. Lunch is optional and there is an extra charge. There are no prizes or prizes are donated and there is a draw. I shoot for fun. For me 100 target no frill events for a reasonable fee would be more fun.
 
That issue has been raised by some of our more experienced shooters. In New Zealand registered shoots are most often 100 targets. Unregistered shoots are often +-85 targets so you can get it done with 4 boxes of shells. To give the old guys a break and let new shooters get in some targets that count the choice would be to shoot before lunch or after or both.
The idea was met with luke warm reception. I would suggest sending an email to any or all the directors of the CNSCA. The email address are all on the website.
I look forward to your emails addressing any concerns with Sporting Clays in Alberta or Canada.
J
 
I shoot a lot in Florida in the winter. Most registered shoots are $65-$70 with a $5 discount for registering before the day of the shoot. That includes lunch and target fees. It's almost $5 for NSCA and state fees.

In Canada, $65 and no lunch seems the norm. There are $3 NSCA and no state fees because we don't have a state/provincial assn.

For big blasts (Nationals, Open, Seminole etc) you can expect $1 a target or slightly more. The prelim will be $85-$90 no lunch.
 
J,
Which issue was raised? 100 target events or the cost of shooting? I know the president of our association gets Sporting Clays Mag, but I emailed him a copy of the article which reported the success of $35.00/hundred registered. Maybe there should be a pole of those who shoot a few shoots and never come back?
 
Doug,
Are your Canadian shoots registered with the NSCA? How many of your Canadian shoots are 200 target events?
 
I am curious to know how much it costs to shoot registered sporting clays in other areas of Canada. In Alberta 200 registered targets usually cost about $145.00. This usually includes lunch, medals and some prizes. I know of two clubs that charge $105.00 and $120.00 and I know of one club that tried to charge $170.00. An article in December Sporting Clays Magazine reported that some clubs in the US are having great success in attracting new shooters with 100 registered target events for $35.00. Lunch is optional and there is an extra charge. There are no prizes or prizes are donated and there is a draw. I shoot for fun. For me 100 target no frill events for a reasonable fee would be more fun.

I would be fine with a no frills event, but if I'm going to drive a couple hours, I want to shoot at least 200 birds. Most of the clubs I'm familiar with, offer you the ability to just go shoot it with a buddy or two almost anytime you want, at a reasonable price of $50-$60 a hundred.

Of course cheaper is always better, but I don't think the price is unreasonable considering the numbers of machines that have to be purchased and maintained, plus staff to keep them open. Remember our clubs are not generally drawing the crowds some US ranges likely are, where they can make up the profits on volume. Unfortunately even at $35-$40 a 100 I don't think they would see that many more shooters.

Of course if I could drive 30 minutes and shoot, a 100 bird event would be great. As it stands now, we get together a group a couple times a year and go shoot just to go shoot, but we generally shoot at least 200 birds when we go.
 
I think Sporting in Alberta has reached a price point where the numbers of participants has begun to level off. To try to increase participation, things like fewer targets,limited or no prizes and no lunch should be introduced. I believe Beaver Hill Sporting has held a No-Frills shoot that was reasonably priced, but I never heard how their numbers were.

On the upside a few clubs have held shoots that give you the impression that although you have paid a few bucks for the weekend, you go away feeling you received great value for your money.
 
Would it make that much difference to people if it was a registered shoot for $50 a hundred vs a practice day? I only made one registered shoot this year yet I attempted over 1300 targets this summer, the rest just were either non registered tournaments or just for fun. If it does then if no frills shoots gets guy's out, I'm all for seeing it happen, I'm certain I would go to them as well if it worked out time wise for me.

As westward says, I've felt I got my moneys worth generally on the tournaments I have been too, with good grub and excellent courses and hosts.
 
Would it make that much difference to people if it was a registered shoot for $50 a hundred vs a practice day?

One could get a few of his friends together and attend a registered sporting shoot for $145.00. Lunch included.

One could get a few of his friends together and attend the same club the following day and for the most part shoot the same targets for $40.00/hundred. If you did the 200 the $65.00 saved would be more than enough to enjoy lunch and a few or Tims.
 
The cost of the shoots has been raised over and over. Prices are set by club owners and the clubs themselves, not by the association. We introduced the medals as a way to provide prizes at the association expense instead of having the burden of big prizes added to the cost of the shoot. The clubs are in business to make profit whether they be private or member owned. It is up to the individual clubs to balance whether they think cheap targets or big prizes brings more shooters. Until I start winning again, I vote for cheaper tournaments.
The splitting of shoots into multiples of 100 targets should make things easier. Medals as the prizes for the individual shoots, cheaper (no lunch) targets, big prizes to people that pay big money shoot both and don't bring their lunch?!?!
Other associations allow competitors to shoot targets only to remove the "gambling" portion of the day. I will raise issues next meeting.
Any others?
 
Doug,
Are your Canadian shoots registered with the NSCA? How many of your Canadian shoots are 200 target events?

Yes, for the most part they are now.

In Ontario I attend shoots at the Galt Sportmen's Club and Oshawa Skeet club. Both hold registered shoots.

Oshawa has a 200 bird event. They call it the Canadian Open.
 
J,
I know it is the clubs that set the price and it is the clubs that should be aware that there are more than a few that plan to cut back or quit competative events. Two complaints that I hear even more than difficulty of targets is expense and length of events. I know that many who travel far like more targets. Also some who travel far to compete, who plan a return trip the same day would not mind a shorter event. I like the idea of two 100 target events. For those who want to shoot, let there be three events!Medals? For me, you can keep the medals. I know how well I did. I know who won the HOA. I know who out shot me in my class. Most of the prizes I have ever won, except for ammo are useless. I would rather not paid the extra. I have no problem with a lewis or other type of money or prize option.
 
At Galt Sportmens in Cambridge the registered Beretta series shoots were $50 for 100 targets (no lunch.) The Triple B shoot was $75 for 100 sporting and 50 five stand with lunch.

Regular sporting rounds are $36/100 and five stand is $6/25. Registered shoots are on Saturday. Regular shooting on Sundays.

I don't shoot registered due to a less than pleasant experience shooting registered trap in the 90's and because I shoot for fun. As a friend of mine said, "Why would I pay $50 to shoot on Saturday when I can shoot the exact same layout for $36 the next day?"
 
One could get a few of his friends together and attend a registered sporting shoot for $145.00. Lunch included.

One could get a few of his friends together and attend the same club the following day and for the most part shoot the same targets for $40.00/hundred. If you did the 200 the $65.00 saved would be more than enough to enjoy lunch and a few or Tims.

Sorry I wasn't clear, what I meant was, would more people come out shooting if it was 200 registered birds for $100 then if it was just 200 unregistered birds for $100?

I honestly don't know, it doesn't really matter to me, but if it does to others, then as you said it might be a good way to go.
 
The cost of targets like anything else often depend on the level of the sport you are participating in.

If you want to shoot for fun with a few pals and are happy to shoot the "registered" targets a day later for a reduced price that's fine. Don't however compare your scores to the guys who shot the previous day. Registered shoots are a lot more intense when you are competing against other shooters. That's where the thrill is for those choose this route and we are willing to pay more to participate.

Shooting sports in Canada are a great bargain compared to most clubs in the US. I shoot in Fl. during the winter and by and large targets are a lot more there then here. I shoot Southern Ontario and can find targets for $35.00- $40.00 /100 at most clubs.

Remember--- support your local clubs, because when they're gone there is not much chance of a replacement showing up!
 
I got my first taste of sporting clays at Silver Willow in the early 90s. I found it a refreshing change from registered trap. There wasn't much for registered sporting but there were lots of fun shoots on the week end. Usually 50 target and prizes and classes on known ability. Shoots were fun and if you needed more you could go again for practice rates. I left for several years and when I went back Alberta has its own association and shoots were mostly 200 targets and except for the odd charity shoot registered competition was the only game to be had. Lots of #####ing and complaints from some that it seems to be a sport for the rich or elite. So much for a sport that used to be called hunter's clays? The only thing that registered competition seemed to do was make competition expensive and suck a lot of fun out of it. That is why I jumped all over the article in Sporting Clays. At least down south it seems that someone is trying to rescue the sport from a slow death.
 
The cost of targets like anything else often depend on the level of the sport you are participating in.

If you want to shoot for fun with a few pals and are happy to shoot the "registered" targets a day later for a reduced price that's fine. Don't however compare your scores to the guys who shot the previous day. Registered shoots are a lot more intense when you are competing against other shooters. That's where the thrill is for those choose this route and we are willing to pay more to participate.
Thanks for that post. You've shown the exact attitude that turned me off registered trap shooting years ago. Goodness me do not DARE to have the temerity to compare your scores on precisely the same course because it's just SO much more intense when you are competing against other shooters and paying more for the privilege. What BS. :rolleyes:
 
Remember--- support your local clubs, because when they're gone there is not much chance of a replacement showing up!

Our local ranges are for the most part privatley owned and are the only game in town and they know it. If they go it may be because they priced themselves out of existence.
 
Would like to support the idea of encouraging the option of shooting 100 or 200 birds. Indeed, I don't see why one couldn't even do this in registered matches. This basic compromise seems like a good one, especially considering some of the comments mentioned here. I don't know about intensity of registered matches vs unregistered. I do like the idea of an organization providing leadership for the sport, and providing a setting for the more competitive of us. On the other hand, I hope the organization doesn't lose sight of the fact that many of us are shooting for fun without the expectation of competing in a world tournament and, truth be told, there is a pretty good number of us that are getting a bit long in the tooth. The bottom line on all this is that the shooting sports can't really afford to lose a group of shooters who want to shoot shorter matches or will be turned off by heavily competitive scenarios. So, some effort has to be made to be "all things to all people" unfair though that may be to organizers. The other thing, of course, is that the sport is a dieing one unless it starts attracting more young people. I wish I had a suggestion for this one:(.
 
I used to shoot Sporting quite a bit in Alberta before moving to British Columbia. In BC, the sporting clays association is long gone. There are fun shoot which are reasonably priced. Kamloops is a good driving distance from Vancouver but they have good targets. For the last 3 years or so I started to shoot in Washington State. I have been shooting at a few of the different clubs mentioned in that Sporting Clays Magazine article. The targets are awesome and the cost cannot be any better. To re shoot the course is even cheaper. I also found that the variety of targets being thrown is better. If I was still shooting in Alberta, I would really have to choose only a few tournaments because I wouldn't be able to afford as many registered targets that I can shoot in the States or fun shoot in BC.
 
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