Current production rifles that continue to offer CRF?

Northern Shooter said:
Are Sakos are actually CRF? I've seen many here argue against that. I know the 85 used some kind of hybrid design but the latest 90 series is apparently back to pure pushfeed?

It looks like all the bespoke English gun makers make a CRF Mauser based rifle but they are all 10s of thousands (if not hundreds).
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They're not exactly CRF, and they're not exactly push-feed either. For whatever my opinion's worth, they not really all that great for the money you spend on them anyway. If you want a CRF and want to spend Sako dollars, Winchester SG is worth looking at. I have both, and like the Winnie better. The Kimbers are very nice, and they're very light, but I've noticed that accuracy falls off fast as the barrel heats up. Not a big deal for hunting, but for load development it's a pain in the ass waiting 15 mins between groups.
 
zastava did not resume production for the lmk70 as it was never stopped. zastava usa the main civilian market is on handguns and lovely semi autos so nothing is coming up here. we do not have anymore Anthony dealing with them for canada so i doubt we ll see them before a very long time. but they re fully crf for sure.
 
Lever30 said:
I believe that Zastava has recently resumed production of their LK M70 series of 98 Mausers. How long until they trickle in to our market, who knows. They are very nice commercial Mausers with a so-so stock. The actions are interesting, they are an 'intermediate' size as opposed to a long action.

Also, if you are REALLY brave there is the Chinese/Norinco distributed M334. I am not condoning the use of these, and they do trigger the gag reflex, but they technically are available. Pretty spotty QC by the sounds of it, but if you wanted a bush beater, it may be OK.
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Action lengths in the Zastavas depend on caliber. I'm pretty sure my M70 and M808 are long action as they are built in .22-250 up to 375 H&H Mag and 458 Win Mag, whereas the M85s were shorter, chambered in .22 Hornet up to 7.62×39. The stock on mine is really nice actually; it looked dry when I got it, but I rubbed in a couple of coats of tung oil which brought it to life.

I have been told that there will be quite a price increase when (and if) they come in to Canada again; instead of $700 now maybe $1000.

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Meroh said:
Action lengths in the Zastavas depend on caliber. I'm pretty sure my M70 and M808 are long action as they are built in .22-250 up to 375 H&H Mag and 458 Win Mag, whereas the M85s were shorter, chambered in .22 Hornet up to 7.62×39. The stock on mine is really nice actually; it looked dry when I got it, but I rubbed in a couple of coats of tung oil which brought it to life.

I have been told that there will be quite a price increase when (and if) they come in to Canada again; instead of $700 now maybe $1000.


You're probably right about the action length, esp with the M70s. I don't remember the measurements, but I had a very nice 308 Zastava which was definitely shorter in the receiver opening than the last Husky FN I had in 30-06. I think the M85s were a whole different animal though, no?

I think the stocks varied quite a bit in wood quality. Mine was a very light colored walnut (I wasn't sure it was walnut at first), but the checkering was iffy. I never found the shooting position very comfortable for some reason. It was one of the monte carlo type stocks.

No matter what, they are definitely an example of nice old world craftsmanship. You won't find many modern rifles with as deep bluing on them. And I'm sure you're also right about the prices going up IF we do see them again.
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Lever30 said:
Meroh said:
Action lengths in the Zastavas depend on caliber. I'm pretty sure my M70 and M808 are long action as they are built in .22-250 up to 375 H&H Mag and 458 Win Mag, whereas the M85s were shorter, chambered in .22 Hornet up to 7.62×39. The stock on mine is really nice actually; it looked dry when I got it, but I rubbed in a couple of coats of tung oil which brought it to life.

I have been told that there will be quite a price increase when (and if) they come in to Canada again; instead of $700 now maybe $1000.


You're probably right about the action length, esp with the M70s. I don't remember the measurements, but I had a very nice 308 Zastava which was definitely shorter in the receiver opening than the last Husky FN I had in 30-06. I think the M85s were a whole different animal though, no?

I think the stocks varied quite a bit in wood quality. Mine was a very light colored walnut (I wasn't sure it was walnut at first), but the checkering was iffy. I never found the shooting position very comfortable for some reason. It was one of the monte carlo type stocks.

No matter what, they are definitely an example of nice old world craftsmanship. You won't find many modern rifles with as deep bluing on them. And I'm sure you're also right about the prices going up IF we do see them again.
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You are certainly right about the bluing; the adjustable trigger is nice also. Mine is a bit long in the length of pull, but I am reluctant to cut it when it is so pretty! (Serbs must have long arms). The M85 seemed tiny and fine; very light, but never had a need for one. Mine is a 6.5 x 55; the perfect southern Ontario caliber.
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Meroh said:
Lever30 said:
You are certainly right about the bluing; the adjustable trigger is nice also. Mine is a bit long in the length of pull, but I am reluctant to cut it when it is so pretty! (Serbs must have long arms). The M85 seemed tiny and fine; very light, but never had a need for one. Mine is a 6.5 x 55; the perfect southern Ontario caliber.
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southern slavs are not the small midget area lol ... im the smallest in the family at only 6.5 lol
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The m85 is a SAKO vixen clone iirc

Honestly not bad guns, but the bolt handle is sized down along with the action and it's annoying.

I heard that the issue may be bringing m70 Zastavas in at a price where they are competitive?
 
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