CZ 452 vs 455 in 22lr

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hi all looking for your thoughts on these two, what you like, dislike, and accurcy ect. i am looking to buy one. had my eye on the cz 455 varmint i like the heavy barrel on it, but have heard that the 452 is more accurate out of the box?
 
I'd pick the 452 and do own one in American version.
Something about swappable barrels gets me to wondering about
maintaining accuracy.

If given the choice, I'd pick the 452.
 
I have had a 452 Varmint for about 6 months now, I just purchased a 455 (thumbhole stock & fluted barrel) and will be shooting it for the first time this morning. There are several advantages to the 455 design that I like. There are 2 action screws on the 455, while the 452 has one action screw and one barrel screw. The 455 action screws are larger, stronger, torx head screws, the screws on the 452 are smaller flat head screws more prone to failure. The ability to change barrels means that an after market barrel can easily be added (ie: Lilja). The finish is nicer on the 455 (that may be just the model I have rather than all 455s). The fluted barrel on my 455 model should in theory be stiffer than the 452 Varmint barrel, it is definitely lighter.

Of course none of this matters if it is not accurate, I will be comparing the accuracy of these 2 rifles, the winners stays, the loser goes on the EE.
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I prefer 452's and have voted that way, buying many of them.

The "switch-ability" of barrels is of no use to me as I would rather just get a whole gun for not much more cost, not to mention re scoping, re-zeroing etc.

That being said, the 455's I own and have had in the past are just as accurate and smooth as the 452's.
 
I too have both a 452 Varmint and a 455 varmint. While the 455 has a heavier barrel and 2 action screws, I don't think it's any more accurate than my 452. I haven't shot the 455 enough too compare groups. If I had to sell one it would be the 455 varmint.
 
Well it is too close to call after one range visit. I shot about 40 5 round groups at 50yds through the 455. The best group from the 455 was .167" which is about the same as my best groups with the 452V. I will have to see which is more consistent and then pic a winner. The 455 seems to prefer RWS, while the 452V seems to prefer SK Rifle Match.

I guess that confirms what others have said, there is not a significant difference in accuracy between the 2 models
 
There is a good reason to buy a CZ 452 in whatever configuration you like rather than the CZ 455 and that is the 452 is supposed to be discontinued -- although new ones do appear from time-to-time. The CZ 455 will always be available, at least for the foreseeable future. The conventional wisdom over on RFC is that both the 452 and 455 should be equally accurate, but many are buying 452's for the reason outlined above. The conventional wisdom also has it that the Varmint model in either 452 or 455 is no more accurate than the American model with its thinner barrel; these are sporter, factory-made rifles, after all. If you can find a 453 model, the one with the single set trigger, you might want to give it serious consideration, as they, too, are increasingly hard to find.

The main advantage of the 455 is that you can switch barrels to .17HMR or .22WMR very easily. If you don't plan on getting a different caliber barrel or, as has been previously suggested, getting a Lilja barrel for the ultimate in CZ accuracy, then get the 452.

My own experience is mixed with the 455. My first CZ was a 455 American which I could not get to shoot very well. I needed to get a new barrel and have the stock pillared and bedded to get it to shoot. I also have a 455 with a TH stock with both .17HMR and .22LR barrels and it shoots without problems. I have a 452 American which is terrific as are my 453's in Varmint and Lux models. Some folks don't care for the SST but it gives you a "hunting" trigger and a "target" trigger all in one.

Just remember that ammo always makes a big difference when accuracy is important.
 
grauhanen said:
There is a good reason to buy a CZ 452 in whatever configuration you like rather than the CZ 455 and that is the 452 is supposed to be discontinued -- although new ones do appear from time-to-time. The CZ 455 will always be available, at least for the foreseeable future. The conventional wisdom over on RFC is that both the 452 and 455 should be equally accurate, but many are buying 452's for the reason outlined above. The conventional wisdom also has it that the Varmint model in either 452 or 455 is no more accurate than the American model with its thinner barrel; these are sporter, factory-made rifles, after all. If you can find a 453 model, the one with the single set trigger, you might want to give it serious consideration, as they, too, are increasingly hard to find.

The main advantage of the 455 is that you can switch barrels to .17HMR or .22WMR very easily. If you don't plan on getting a different caliber barrel or, as has been previously suggested, getting a Lilja barrel for the ultimate in CZ accuracy, then get the 452.

My own experience is mixed with the 455. My first CZ was a 455 American which I could not get to shoot very well. I needed to get a new barrel and have the stock pillared and bedded to get it to shoot. I also have a 455 with a TH stock with both .17HMR and .22LR barrels and it shoots without problems. I have a 452 American which is terrific as are my 453's in Varmint and Lux models. Some folks don't care for the SST but it gives you a "hunting" trigger and a "target" trigger all in one.

Just remember that ammo always makes a big difference when accuracy is important.
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So your telling me I should buy the 452 I've had me eye on for a while even if I don't really need it right now ;)
 


The front rifle is a CZ455 American and the one in the back a CZ455 Varmint with the laminate thumb hole stock.
With a spare tuner it is one more thing to play around with so I am currently trying to develop it as a 100 yard/metre and have seen some good results with Eley Team. Next nice day I will make some tuner adjustments. Shot the American this morning and the first group using CCI SV measured 0.325 c-c. Used a number of different makes and configurations of ammo, some would string vertically, and then a nice 3 or 4 shot group would have a spoiler. The last group using Eley pistol measured 0.407 but it was just too cold to continue.
Both scopes are the same Burris Fullfield with the Ballistic Plex reticle. There is some advantage to having them match but as gopher guns the extra stadia are a nice feature.
The American has a DIP base and Burris rings while the Varmint has Leupold Ring Mounts. The trigger on the American is set at 1 1/4 pounds and the Varmint at one pound both with YoDave kits.
 
I was thinkin about using the yo dave kit most seem to really like it. I may try the trigger first and see how i like it then get the yo dave if i'm not to fond of the trigger.

As for the 453 can't find it, i'll get the 452 i would never put a new barrel on the 455 if anything i'd probably end up with an annie.
 
misfits said:
I was thinkin about using the yo dave kit most seem to really like it. I may try the trigger first and see how i like it then get the yo dave if i'm not to fond of the trigger.

As for the 453 can't find it, i'll get the 452 i would never put a new barrel on the 455 if anything i'd probably end up with an annie.
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I have placed a few yo-dave kits in my CZ's but you should definetly try the stock trigger for a bit first. I have an American that shoots waay too well for me to mod... Yet. (Mostly superstitious though, as all the yo-dave's have improved things.)
 
I have been very impressed with the YoDave trigger kit and highly recommend it.

My 452 was purchased lightly used on the EE and it came with a YoDave spring and shim already installed, it is about 15oz and very crisp, with no pre travel and very little over travel. The 455 started with a stock CZ trigger, that had good feel, but was quite heavy at about 2.5 lbs, I installed (well actually, my buddy Elimsprint did the install for me) a DIP light spring that reduced the pull weight to a very light 9oz, I also have a DIP adjustable sear that has not yet been installed.
 
Only played with the 452s, never handled a 455. I'm familiar with the 452 American and Varmint versions. The American has a dovetailed bolt mount boss at the rear of the receiver in addition to the bolt nearer the front of the receiver, so two bolts holding the action into the stock. The Varmint version has the forward action bolt and a barrel mounted/dovetailed boss for the second hold down screw. I've not experimented much with either, but have heard tuning the Varmint version for max accuracy means playing with the bolt torque on the barrel bolt.
Here is a great link with lots of photos on the 452 vs 455 American version:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344852
 
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