CZ 452 vs 455; Which one should I get?

CZ 452 vs CZ455; Which should i get?

  • Cz 452

    Votes: 34 69.4%

  • CZ 455

    Votes: 15 30.6%
  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
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thaeffman

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I'm looking to buy my first rifle and Ive narrowed it down to these two. The 452 is pretty popular and has a proven track record where as the 455 has some interesting features but does not have the service record of the 452. Accuracy is important but I know that i wont be able to use either rifles to their full potential until i have enough experience. However when I do become proficient I would like my rifle to transition from a learning tool to a good accurate target rifle. I'm going to be deciding within a few days what I want to get so any help is welcome.
Thanks
Firzul
 
If you are planning on using iron sights, go for the 452, it's iron sights are better than on the 455.
These sights are available on the 452 Ultra Lux and 452 Special Military Training Rifle.

Also were on the discontinued 452FS and Lux models if you can find them.

If you are planning on scoping, I don't think it really matters.
 
I voted for the 452 because I asked myself the same question a month ago. The 452 are getting alot harder to find and they have a big following. I got the cz-452 American as I will be able to find a 455 anytime but not the 452. JMHO

Wayne
 
The general consensus of our many CZ shooters here in Sheffield, Alabama, is that the FS 452 has the edge over the FS 455. I particularly like the Trainer and Ultra Lux. I have a pretty good FS 455 American but it's not knocked my socks off. If I get the chance, I'd like to buy an Ultra Lux and just use it with the iron sights. Happy New Year!
 
I only have one CZ gun which I've only had for a few weeks: It's a 452 and it is excellent. I chose not to vote as I do not want to smudge the poll results with an uninformed vote. I considered both of these models before electing to purchase the 452 varmint for I had a little interest in the possibility of easily swapping my 22lr barrel for a 17hmr for larger vermin, and then back for small vermin and target shooting.
 
I voted 455.

I prefer the action screw set-up, much easier to pillar bed and no barrel lug. Also I like the American's barrel taper better.
I just wish the 455 varmint had a slight barrel taper, I would like a little more weight forward.

You can also rebarrel the 455 with an excellent Lilja barrel should you ever want to hot-rod it.

-Grant
 
Grantmac said:
You can also rebarrel the 455 with an excellent Lilja barrel should you ever want to hot-rod it.

-Grant
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Indeed, and the 17M2 is among the available options! I will likely convert my 455 varmint to a Lilja 17M2, and pick up a FS 452 just because they are so ###y. My 452 varmint was excellent too, though. I voted 455 because it's more forward-looking, but in reality you can't go too wrong either way!
 
GD7 said:
Indeed, and the 17M2 is among the available options! I will likely convert my 455 varmint to a Lilja 17M2, and pick up a FS 452 just because they are so ###y. My 452 varmint was excellent too, though. I voted 455 because it's more forward-looking, but in reality you can't go too wrong either way!
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Just noticed your signature line: Is Michael Moore really recorded as having said that? Doesn't bode well for what he was suggesting in Bowling for Columbine. :confused:
 
New Camper said:
Just noticed your signature line: Is Michael Moore really recorded as having said that? Doesn't bode well for what he was suggesting in Bowling for Columbine. :confused:
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Yes he sure did, in response to the Sandy Hook situation, and to flog his latest propaganda piece.

Here is a more complete quote:

"I think we’re a very frightened people. I think we’ve been frightened ever since we landed on these shores.
And I was fascinated in that subject when making ‘Bowling for Columbine,’ of how fear is used to the point where everybody feels like they’ve got to have a gun in the house. Now, not every house has a gun but we’ve got over a quarter-billion guns in people’s homes. And they’re mostly in the suburbs and rural areas where there is virtually no crime and no murder. So why is that? What are they really afraid of? What do they think of — who’s going to break into the house? Do they think it’s little freckled-face Jimmy down the street? I don’t think so. I don’t think that’s who they’re afraid of. And it cuts down to the heart of our race problem that we still haven’t resolved. And I thought it would be interesting to take a look at that in the movie."
 
GD7 said:
Yes he sure did, in response to the Sandy Hook situation, and to flog his latest propaganda piece.

Here is a more complete quote:

"I think we’re a very frightened people. I think we’ve been frightened ever since we landed on these shores.
And I was fascinated in that subject when making ‘Bowling for Columbine,’ of how fear is used to the point where everybody feels like they’ve got to have a gun in the house. Now, not every house has a gun but we’ve got over a quarter-billion guns in people’s homes. And they’re mostly in the suburbs and rural areas where there is virtually no crime and no murder. So why is that? What are they really afraid of? What do they think of — who’s going to break into the house? Do they think it’s little freckled-face Jimmy down the street? I don’t think so. I don’t think that’s who they’re afraid of. And it cuts down to the heart of our race problem that we still haven’t resolved. And I thought it would be interesting to take a look at that in the movie."
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Interesting that for a small town like Newtown Connecticut, being comparable to the "safe" places Moore mentioned, that not one of the quarter billion guns owned was presented to defeat the shooter before he got through the doors?

Anyway, I am hijacking this thread... I have a CZ 452 varmint with laminate stock which is very accurate: I posted a 25m target a week ago, that showed a few groups, a couple 5 shot groups being slightly larger than bullet diameter. At 50m, provided I do my part, the gun would group 5 rounds under half inch. Do you find the 455 to be equally accurate as your 452? I liked the option of being able to quickly change to 17hmr for larger varmints, but I figured I wanted mostly a target shooter and for laying waste to varmints, I would just use my 222. The 452 with bavarian stock is gorgeous: I never had a laminate stock until recently with the 452, and it is a fine piece of eye candy. The first CZ rifle I saw and held was a 550fs chambered for 6.5X55, with bavarian stock: Ever since then, I've wanted one.
 
I have a 452 varmint and a 455 super match and the 455 has a slight edge with the ammo i have trried. That being said i try to be fair when choosing between them for the days shooting, my poor old 10-22 is pouting a bit as it stays at home a lot more.
 
vrex said:
I've been thinking about getting that exact rifle myself. May I ask where you saw it?
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An older gentleman owned it who I did some work for. I also bought a few guns from and correspond with him. He always has good things to say about CZ/BRNO and despite my offers to buy his 550fs, he refuses each time I ask if he is interested in selling it. I recall the groups he shot with it were respectable as well with European ammunition, and I don't think he handloads.
 
Just went through the same dilemma myself and ended up with a 455 American. The deciding factor for me was the availability of Lilja barrels for a simple (but expensive) upgrade which purportedly can make the 455 a sub MOA shooter at 100. See the link below.

http://rimfireshooting.com/index.php?showtopic=8318

While I can't provide a comparison to a 452, I've been delighted with the performance of the 455. It's very accurate with CCI mini mags out-of-the-box. I'm sure either is great.
 
There is little difference betwen my 452 Varmint and 452 American. One any day one might out shoot the other with one brand of ammo, and reverse the order when brands are changed.
There is about a pound difference in the two, and that would equate to the 455 as well.
The 455 has the advantage of being a switch barrel but I do not know of anyone who has gone to the trouble of getting a second barrel, and how they view this as an advantage. Better to have two guns and avoid switching.
Both models are good enough that even a young man could use it his lifetime and put it in his will!!! Of course we know what one would have to do in order to allow some lucky individual to collect, and where there is a will there is certainly to be a lawyer.
 
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