Cz 457 first impressions

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Got me a brand new royal, and overall im pretty happy with it.
However there are some things worth noting.
First off, the striker has little chips in it ONLY where the face that does the striking is. Which is odd, but it does work. Put a few boxes through it, no problems. Ill probably leave it like that for a while until i see parts being sold out here.
Secondly, the face of the bolt has what looks to be file marks straight across the face. Again, doesnt hinder the operation but it could definetly look nicer.
Third, i was surprised to find that the 25 round mag (that works flawlessly in the 452) does not feed into the chamber. At all. Not the biggest deal, and i havent taken the time to figure out why yet.

Those are the legitimate problems i have found. But still very happy with it, because damn the royal is just sweet.

I have so far located 2 plastic parts.. which i may remake out of steel because why not. They are the magwell (which the 452 also has, and yes they can break if using extended mags and it gets bumped. Ill attest to that) the other, is the cocking indicator, which doesnt seem to stick out far enough to break, even if bumped.

Overall, nice rifle. Im curious to what other people who actually have them have to say about theirs.

Oh and accuracy wise, i cant say anything concrete, as i am not a stellar shot. Basically i shoot it about as well as a 452
 
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Well before everyone runs out and buys one best get on the Americans side of rimfire central and read the facts these things are produced poorly very poorly I bought the MTR advertised as the best of the best well I have a Cooey that will out shoot this thing!!
Did a 500 round break in beat it would produce was a .750 wild 20 different types of rounds from fast to the best target ammo
Only to be dissatisfied.
Things that were corrected!
1 firing pin profile wrong read Bill Mcgaffys info to correct the issue it works!
2 crown poor finish recrown
3 locking lug is a joke has no locking effect had to shim to correct the issue
4 30 inch pounds torq to stock to get good results
Finished result! Best shot @50 was a .140 5 shot @3 degrees sunny conditions
If you get one that shoots sounds like your lucky a lot of CZ owners not happy the Americans have the CZ line for a bit and it’s really hit and miss.
Buyer beware the new CZ LINE NEEDS QUALITY CONTROL HELP!
If it’s under new management please boot his but out bring back the guy that new how to produce a fine instrument.
 
Dave64 said:
Well before everyone runs out and buys one best get on the Americans side of rimfire central and read the facts these things are produced poorly very poorly I bought the MTR advertised as the best of the best well I have a Cooey that will out shoot this thing!!
Did a 500 round break in beat it would produce was a .750 wild 20 different types of rounds from fast to the best target ammo
Only to be dissatisfied.
Things that were corrected!
1 firing pin profile wrong read Bill Mcgaffys info to correct the issue it works!
2 crown poor finish recrown
3 locking lug is a joke has no locking effect had to shim to correct the issue
4 30 inch pounds torq to stock to get good results
Finished result! Best shot @50 was a .140 5 shot @3 degrees sunny conditions
If you get one that shoots sounds like your lucky a lot of CZ owners not happy the Americans have the CZ line for a bit and it’s really hit and miss.
Buyer beware the new CZ LINE NEEDS QUALITY CONTROL HELP!
If it’s under new management please boot his but out bring back the guy that new how to produce a fine instrument.
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Sorry to hear that Dave, I'm expecting delivery on mine today, did you consider returning it for an exchange ? The MTR is supposed to shoot 1 moa
 
While I'm firmly entrenched in my 452 ways...I sure don't WANT to be right about my 455/457 reservations either. I hope the people who are buying these (at these prices) are getting what they hope for, or at least insisting CZ makes it right.
 
.22LRGUY said:
While I'm firmly entrenched in my 452 ways...I sure don't WANT to be right about my 455/457 reservations either. I hope the people who are buying these (at these prices) are getting what they hope for, or at least insisting CZ makes it right.
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My 455 Lux shoots 1 hole groups @ 50 yards, hopefully the 457 will do the same
 
I shot a 5 shot group on Saturday at 300 yards that measured 0.9 inches wide and 4.6 inches high with my 452 Varmint and RWS Pistol Match ammo.
 
I did consider returning it but after reading some of the issues from The American side I lost faith, this is or was a great product I’ve owned every BRNO to every CZ after the 453 they built garbage the 455s were so hit and miss and trust me I bought four 455s 2 shot ok two I sold immediately.
This is a bad taste that I can’t ignore there into high production with no qc when companies like Savage build a better product they better start changing there ways.
With that off my chest...yes maybe the correct thing to do was to bring it back and focus my product search in another direction.
I em going to keep going till I get the results I’m after only thing left is a lilja barrel.
I ordered the lithgow 101 22cal if it shoots good out of the box my CZ will be for sale and yes it will shoot lights out when I’m done.
Just have an issue when a company that builds a product from reputation to building trash they need to quit building firearms the consumer pays the price the company pays for it in long term affects you can only trick people for so long.
Don’t beleave in the marketing with good marketing dogs turds can sound good! If people are stupid enough to do a tide pod challenge??
They will buy a CZ.
I HOPE FOR THERE RETURN OF QUALITY.
just my personal opinion but facts are facts the Americans have had these for awhile the ratios are not good in CZs favour.
 
I hope the 457 will be more consistent in the accuracy department than what I have experienced with my 455s (all sold....). I have a couple of amazingly accurate 452s that I enjoy tremendously but it will take sometime before I get interested in the 457.
The 452 was a Brno designed rifle that got transferred to CZUB when Brno went out of business. The 455 was a design modification done by CZUB that, in my opinion, didn't make the rifle any better acuracywise.
 
Much like buying a new vehicle because Ford/GM/Dodge, ETC came out with a new model.

The previous model had all the faults worked out. Consumer reports showed this to be the case with the 1996 Ford F150, as well as the 2003, the 2010 and about the time the next change to the aluminum body frame model to start all over again.

Same thing applies to guns but there are a lot of innovative users making changes for the better and after a few years the 457 will be better for their efforts. To buy a new model on the recommendation of the manufacturer is a bit of a crap shoot bu we all participate in one way or another.

I won't be buying a 457 since I have done a number of improvements on my 455's (a Varmint and an American) with reshaping the firing pin, YoDave trigger kits, pillar bedding, and an extended mag release.
 
I plan to wait a year on the 457's. Too much rush for the MTR's since Precision rimfire is taking the shooting world by storm.
I have 452's and Walther's that shoot better, so why not use them :) Granted they don't qualify for prs, but I derive a lot of pleasure from shooting them anyhow.
 
I appreciate all these honest reviews. Even if it pains me to hear about the cz QC.
This brings up a concern for me, as i have been contemplating getting a 557 for hunting..
Does anyone have any honest reviews on those? I know about the good parts, but im interested in hearing about the bad news about them if there is any.
Anybody got any dirt on the 557?
 
Kody said:
I hope the 457 will be more consistent in the accuracy department than what I have experienced with my 455s (all sold....). I have a couple of amazingly accurate 452s that I enjoy tremendously but it will take sometime before I get interested in the 457.
The 452 was a Brno designed rifle that got transferred to CZUB when Brno went out of business. The 455 was a design modification done by CZUB that, in my opinion, didn't make the rifle any better acuracywise.
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the new 457 is using the old 455 barrels, all they did was cut the rear tang off the action, change the trigger assembly, add a side safety, and change the rear of the bolt body...........it's a new holding and delivery system to hold the stock to the barrel. Top all that off with not drilling and tapping the action and guess what.........they missed the boat........again.......and this is coming from a guy that knows CZs
 
I have been saying it from the beginning, that quick change barrel system from CZ is just pain wrong, incredibly bad engineering.
One of the quick change barrel system I would have any faith in all all, would be the Anschutz design.
See you at the range...

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the new 457 is using the old 455 barrels, all they did was cut the rear tang off the action, change the trigger assembly, add a side safety, and change the rear of the bolt body...........it's a new holding and delivery system to hold the stock to the barrel. Top all that off with not drilling and tapping the action and guess what.........they missed the boat........again.......and this is coming from a guy that knows CZs
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There is no such thing as a good quick change barrel system.

If you can change it quick, it will move quick and will not hold zero.

In this case it's just a rimfire, but it's even worse on center fire.
 
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