CZ 85 vs CZ SP-01--your thoughts?

[Smoothbore]

I am torn here. I like the classic lines and the adjustable sights and trigger on the CZ 85 Combat.

However the CZ SP-01 Tactical seems to be getting rave reviews and its
heavy weight cuts recoil. I can't afford both, so which to you recommend for basic target shooting, with maybe some competition later?

Thanks and Happy New Year!

 

[reddot]

..... I like the classic lines and the adjustable sights and trigger on the CZ 85 Combat...

I think your statement above already gives the answer to your question.

There is no reason why you can't be competitive with a CZ85 if you choose to shoot IPSC later... just ask omen and IPSC1.

 

[HKfan]

I have both. I would take the SP-01. No question. It is not a HUGE amount better, but it is certainly more competitive for sport, and there seem to be a large number of performance parts that you can drop in to make it ultra competitive in IPSC Production division.

Personally I would also go the safety version over the Tactical (decocker) but that is a personal preference.

 

[Sniper22]

I shot with a new CZsp01 out of the box, it's very good I guess, no complaint
it does good grouping, very smooth trigger, good sights, overall it's very good.

 

[omen]

you can put adjustable sights on the sp01 if you like so that's not an issue.

if you prefer the 85, if it feels better in your hand, get that. The sp01 has slightly better recoil characteristics, and it represents the next/current generation of cz guns. Between the two, get the current design, not the old one.

re safety vs decocker, that's is largely irrelevant from any practical point of view, the only difference is how they fit your hand (the two levers have slightly different positions on the frame), so try them both. With the decocker you'll have a lighter DA first shot, if you ever end up in competition too, since the hammer starts from half ####, not all the way down.
I can shoot either one just as well, but others prefer one over the other.

 

[Smoothbore]

Hmm. . . so the decocker only takes the hammer half way down?
And then to fully decock the gun, you do what? Just lower it with your thumb?

Would the decocker version have a shorter DA tigger pull than the non-decocker?

Thanks for all the replies! I appreciate it guys.

 

[omen]

Hmm. . . so the decocker only takes the hammer half way down?
And then to fully decock the gun, you do what? Just lower it with your thumb?

Would the decocker version have a shorter DA tigger pull than the non-decocker?

re decocked - the CZ decocker lowers the hammer to half #### - that's "full decocked" for CZ guns, as far as the OFM and IPSC are conserned. If you wanted to have a loaded gun, with the hammer all the way down, you'd have to lower it down manually (you'd probably not use the decocker at all, just lower it from start yourself).

The reason the DA pull on the decocker is shorter and lighter is because of the above - a 'double action' shot, with the decocker version, starts from half ####. If you don't have a decocker, and you need to manually decock, you have to lower the hammer all the way down - so you get the 'full' DA trigger pull.

This just deals with IPSC rules: fully decocked on a gun with a decocker is where ever the decocker leaves it. Without a decocker, it means "all the way down."

But try both, since like I said above, there is a slight difference in lever placements, decocker vs safety, one might fit you much better than the other.

If you get the safety model, and end up shooting in ipsc with us in the production division, you'll never use the safety - you'll lower manually all the way down for your first DA shot, so no safety needed. With a decocker, you'll use it to decock for your first shot.

 

[Smoothbore]

Great info. Thank you!