CZ 858 Range Trip :D

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Well, I received my CZ858 Tactical 2 from Frontier Taxidermy a little while ago and I took it out today since it was so nice outside.

It shot surprisingly well IMO. I managed a 2" group at 100 yards (there was a sandbag down at the range :D ) and I was nailing the 200 and 300 yard gongs (about the size of a chicken?) all day long. I was using the Czech surplus btw.

That leaves me to wonder, am I cleaning the rifle correctly?

When I get home I run boiling water down the barrel and clean it as usual but there seem to be very tiny lines running parallel to the bore I noticed this time. Are those pits from the primers or is that normal? Do you guys clean the gas port until it shines or am I being anal retentive? What chemical do you find works best? I've been using Hoppes No.9 but that seems to take quite a bit of scrubbing to get the gas port shiny again so I'm assuming it would take more scrubbing in the barrel as well. Should I switch to CLP or is Hoppes fine?

I'm finally part of the black rifle club and to celebrate I have a whole wack of questions for you guys.
 
The CZ858 is much harder to clean than the VZ58.

I sprayed windex down the barrel after shooting.
I poured boiling soapy water down the barrel about 30 mins after that.
I reamed the barrel with that wire brush in the cleaning kit.
I applied CLP patches and let sit for an hour.
Then I ran patches through that thing for an hour after that.

...and I still couldn't get the thing past 99%, no matter what I did there'd still be fine black swirls from the rifling on the patches. The 858 taught me a lesson in how important chrome is in a barrel.
 
Cleaning the 858 is not that tough. Clean it like you would any other gun, but with one extra step: Pour hot or boiling water over all parts that are exposed to the corrosive salts. After that, just dry and clean like any other gun.
 
QYV said:
Cleaning the 858 is not that tough. Clean it like you would any other gun, but with one extra step: Pour hot or boiling water over all parts that are exposed to the corrosive salts. After that, just dry and clean like any other gun.
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2x , i hold the barrel over a basket of parts and pour 1/2 litre of hot soapy water, run a brush thru the barrel and gas tube and scrub the parts then pour the remaining water, dry and then clean as usual, you will need to wear thicker rubber gloves cos the parts are hot to hold.
 
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2x , i hold the barrel over a basket of parts and pour 1/2 litre on hot soapy water, run a brush thru the barrel and gas tube and scrub the parts then pour the remaining water, dry and then clean as usual, you will need to wear thicker rubber gloves cos its the parts are hot to hold.
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3x That's pretty much exactly how I do it on my 858 and my bore still looks like the day I bought it after several hundred rounds and a few months of storage. I have a feeling the 858 bore rust hysteria is just that combined with a few cases of negligent cleaning for momentum.

I'd be curious if a number of the "I have rust in my 858" people used the cleaning rod that came with the gun. It would explain a lot.;)
 
It's just that I can keep pulling dirty patches out of the bore no matter how much I clean the bore so I'm wondering if I'm doing it correctly. I just want to know if you guys clean until the bore is completely spotless.

The only things I didn't do this time around was use soapy hot water and spray the bore down with windex before leaving the range.
 
I start with warm soapy patches, then clean as usual. It's a little tip a member here told me once. Skip the whole boiling water thing. My barrel gleams like clean silverware.
 
well i use #9 with the cleaning kit it came withit and a little bit of oil...ran a crate of chech thru it already, still no rust on it. even had it camping in a water logged tent with no cleaning for a weekend. oil is its friend.
 
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