cz all terrain upland ultralight 12ga or 20ga

[Skogkatt]

Hi,

I would like an over under or side by side that is light and I found a cz upland ultralight 20 ga for 1500 and the same gun in 12 for 1400.

I already have 2 12ga but they are over 7lb so that is the main reason I would like something lighter. How would be the recoil? on the 12 ga compared with the 20ga? noticeable?

Which one would you choose and why? This this is for small game hunting.

 

[straightshooter]

Any shotgun will recoil harder when used with a heavy load, than the same gun with a lighter load. Light loads are loosely defined as in the 7/8 oz to 1.0 oz and 1 1/8 oz range. Heavy loads - in the 1 1/4 oz plus range.

Using identical shells, the lighter gun will always recoil more than the heavier gun. By the same token, using the same gun, the heavier load will always recoil more than the lighter load.

Having hunted the uplands my whole life, my personal choice would be the Ultralight 20 ga. The lighter gun combined with the lighter shells help your stamina when carrying on a long hunt. However, I would make this choice knowing that I will be limiting myself to maximum 1 1/8 oz loads, even for pheasant and sharptail. This, BTW, is no sacrifice, as using larger shot sizes works better than more pellets does, with cleaner kills and less damage to the meat.

 

[sillymike]

Since both are listed at 5.7 lbs, (and if those numbers are correct) I'd pick the 12g.
- Larger bore (in theory at least) will throw a nicer pattern
- You can always shoot 7/8 or 1oz loads with the 12g (which are what I like best to chase grouse)

 

[The ROC]

The gauge is up to you but I'm a 12g guy, it's readily available with lots of option compared to the other gauges. As for the felt recoil... you shouldn't notice anything while hunting especially during the fall/winter season with the extra layers of clothing. Your focus is find your game, mounting the shotgun and on target, not how much recoil you're going to feel. Also, how many rounds are you really going to use during an outing?

 

[brybenn]

If you're not planning on using steel shot for waterfowl or buckshot for big game than a 20ga is about equal to a 12 for small game
I prefer the 20ga for such tasks. The guns are slimmer and can be lighter and thus seem to handle faster. 7/8oz of shot is all you need for small game. 1oz loads are available in 20 and 1.25oz loads are also available if you like heavy loads for turkey or wild flushing pheasants.
My choice is the 20 but in all fairness the 12 is more versatile as if can be loaded heavier with larger shot

 

[hunter5425]

I shoot a Franchi Renaissance in twelve gauge with 1 1/4 oz loads for pheasant with no issues . It wouldn't bee my first choice for shooting a hundred rounds in a clay shoot.

 

[45CAT]

You say small game hunting. That’s “walk about” to me. Buy the 20. You already have a couple of 12s

 

[sillymike]

Or for the same $$, you could get a vintage Darlow or Webley SxS

 

[Skogkatt]

After reading all the comments I am sure about a 20 ga but those side by sides are ###y...

Someone suggested Yildiz Elegant A5 which I am considering right now... the only problem is I only found extractors and black instead of silver engraving which I like better..