CZ Bren

andrew3081 said:
True, that’s assuming everyone follow the verification.
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Okay, so you bought it from a store and the the RCMP check the store's records. Then they come to you and ask you where the gun is. You have 3 options;

1. You sold it but didn't do the verification. You are charged with transfer without authority, section 101(1) of the criminal code.

2. You lost it in a boating accident, but didn't report it, you will be charged under section 105(1) of the criminal code.

3. You destroyed it, but didn't notify the CFP. You are charged under section 106(1) of the CC.
 
griffin86 said:
Okay, so you bought it from a store and the the RCMP check the store's records. Then they come to you and ask you where the gun is. You have 3 options;

1. You sold it but didn't do the verification. You are charged with transfer without authority, section 101(1) of the criminal code.

2. You lost it in a boating accident, but didn't report it, you will be charged under section 105(1) of the criminal code.

3. You destroyed it, but didn't notify the CFP. You are charged under section 106(1) of the CC.
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Sigh, OPTION 4 - I've verified numerous licences for sales since I bought that gun - I sold the gun you're inquiring about to one of those people. Yes, I checked their licence as required at the time. No, I did not keep any record of which person I sold what to, or how many I sold to each person, sorry.

This is actually the main reason I've been continuing to buy and sell a couple of firearms a year... just to continue to muddy the water.
 
CobraGT said:
Sigh, OPTION 4 - I've verified numerous licences for sales since I bought that gun - I sold the gun you're inquiring about to one of those people. Yes, I checked their licence as required at the time. No, I did not keep any record of which person I sold what to, or how many I sold to each person, sorry.

This is actually the main reason I've been continuing to buy and sell a couple of firearms a year... just to continue to muddy the water.
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Right, sure, but do you honestly believe that they're just going to accept your option 4, shrug their shoulders and head back to the coffee shop? This isn't Mexico.
 
Painkillers said:
...and they're tearing through your house. Let's not forget that they're tearing through your house.

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Tearing through million of gun owner’s house?
Good luck with that.

Come back with a search warrant and we will talk.

Painkillers said:
It's not as easy as telling the the horse cops "buh-bye.". You'll recall that as a registered firearm owner, you've already consented to having the state check that you are adhering to storage requirements. "Buh-bye, go get a warrant" doesn't cut it my guy. You will be disappointed, 'cause they aren't going anywhere but in your house.
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Can you show me which law allow them to just go into a gun owner’s home whenever the police feel like it?
 
andrew3081 Can you show me which law allow them to just go into a gun owner’s home whenever the police feel like it?[/QUOTE said:
Here you go. section 117 sub 2 of the criminal code.
C/P it into a search engine.

laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-117.04.html#:~:text=117.04%20(1)%20Where%2C%20pursuant,explosive%20substance%20in%20a%20building%2C
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andrew3081 said:
Can you show me which law allow them to just go into a gun owner’s home whenever the police feel like it?
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the firearms act also creates a situation where a firearms officer can legally come in to your home to simply inspect your storage if they believe you have more than 10 firearms. This wasn't so bad years ago when the Chief firearms officer him or herself would make these house calls as they were rare, but in the last 20 or so years, regular RCMP officers have been given the title of firearms officers and use this authority to compel entry in to your home for such an inspection, sure you can refuse, but then they will get a warrant.

The unfortunate part of this is that everything in plain sight within your home is now under scrutiny by a peace officer along with their role as a firearms officer looking at your storage and verifying everything that is supposed to be stored there.
 
Painkillers said:
Right, sure, but do you honestly believe that they're just going to accept your option 4, shrug their shoulders and head back to the coffee shop? This isn't Mexico.
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Well, doesn't really matter, because it's the truth. I've sold most of what I've bought over the last couple of years. I've checked numerous licences as required. I've very intentionally not kept track of what I've sold to whom, because I'm not legally required to. So, good luck to anyone figuring out what went where, because I can't even provide that information, even if I wanted to.

I imagine most experienced gun owners are doing EXACTLY the same thing. So yes, it is ABSOLUTELY worth converting things to NR, because who knows how many hands a given gun goes through in the year or two after... and there is literally no way for anyone TO know. If you can't understand that, I can't help you.

Back to the Bren2!!
 
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