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Hey guys,

I usually shoot clays with my Winchester SXP pump action 12 ga. I was thinking I should do what everyone else does and get an O/U for the clays. I do a little bit of everything: Skeet trap and sporting clays. I shoot about 2500 round a year because I take a break during the fishing and hunting seasons and I'm a young father so I don't have time to go to the range a couple times a week. I know the overwhelming advivce is ti get a used ''B'' gun and be done with it. My LGS has a ''good'' condition winchester 101 (I am a winchester fan I got to admit), that has Mod over IC fixed chokes. For the same price, I could get a brand new CZ canvasback or a churchill 206 that has removable chokes. The CZ especially has great reviews on shootgunworld for people who don't shoot a lot like me. CZ is also offering a 5 year warranty on the gun. I don't plan to take them hunting since I've got the SXP for that.

What do you guys think?
 
Go with what feels right. My buddy has the Cz and he loves it. We traded O/U's for a round last shoot and I just couldn't get it to point right. It just felt wrong on my shoulder
 
From my understanding CZ shotguns are made by Huglu which seems to have the best reputation out of all the Turkish brands. As time4t said theres some good deals to be had from prophet river right now. Specifically some models with adjustable comb for $1000.

I've owned two browning shotguns and agree the quality is next level, but if you don't have $2000 to spend on a used one then Huglu is probably your best bet.
 
I have both, CZ redhead and the SXP field.

I use the CZ O/U mostly in Skeet , were the follow up shot needs to be quick. Shooting Skeet with the SXP is harder because you need to re-####, and that uses up time vs an o/u where you just pull the trigger for the follow up.

When i shoot trap, i use the SXP. Because its a softest shooting budget pump shotgun IMO. Plus, I dont have to chase my spent shells after they eject across the field when i open up the o/u.

So, imo, both CZ and SXP are great. They’re low budget, they work well, and they point great for me.

This is my experience with both guns. Other people may experience differently.

One thing to consider is that when you buy a CZ, make sure it comes with the chokes and choke tool. Its hard to find chokes for them vs a SXP where its very easy.
 
I recently purchased a CZ Redhead in 20ga. I also have a Miroku Browning Citori and have fondled Beretta’s. I can say that the CZ is every bit a quality solid o/u compared to the others.
 
cdncowboy said:
I recently purchased a CZ Redhead in 20ga. I also have a Miroku Browning Citori and have fondled Beretta’s. I can say that the CZ is every bit a quality solid o/u compared to the others.
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I have had a CZ over/under and a Citori over/under and a Miroku over/under and still have a Browining superposed. While the CZ's are good guns for the money, I would not put their quality equal to the others mentioned. Just my opinion.
 
gunsaholic said:
I have had a CZ over/under and a Citori over/under and a Miroku over/under and still have a Browining superposed. While the CZ's are good guns for the money, I would not put their quality equal to the others mentioned. Just my opinion.
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With respect to cosmetics I would agree but when it comes to the mechanics (lockup, trigger, balance, internal component quality) I would say there isn’t much difference. The one I have anyways.
 
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cdncowboy said:
With respect to cosmetics I would agree but when it comes to the mechanics (lockup, trigger, balance, internal component quality) I would say there isn’t much difference. The one I have anyways.
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Wait until you put some rounds through it and not 100's , 1000's , maybe 5000 ??? if it makes it and let us know. The rest just start feeling good at that
Cheers
 
3macs1 said:
Wait until you put some rounds through it and not 100's , 1000's , maybe 5000 ??? if it makes it and let us know. The rest just start feeling good at that
Cheers
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And maybe that is where the difference lies. I’m a hunter and don’t shoot skeet so at the end of what’s left of my hunting career (getting old :) ) the volume of rounds would still be within it’s range. Having said all this I do plan on buying a Beretta Silver Pigeon 20ga in the next couple years just to check one off my hunting bucket list ;)
 
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cdncowboy said:
And maybe that is where the difference lies. I’m a hunter and don’t shoot skeet so at the end of what’s left of my hunting career (getting old :) ) the volume of rounds would still be within it’s range. Having said all this I do planning on buying a Beretta Silver Pigeon 20ga in the next couple years just to check one off my hunting bucket list ��
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Agree. I have one in 28ga and it works just fine for hunting but would not be in for the long haul shooting any form of clays and 1000's of rounds IMO
At least you are getting old some of us are there :(
Take care
 
I went with a Churchill Orcap II.....I own I think about 12 CZ rifles and pistols but not one of their shotguns. Compared to the Churchill the CZ felt inferior in the shop and of less quality. The Churchill felt like a much nicer gun and that was over 2 years ago and I am still very happy with the shotgun. I have shot trap with it and carried it in the woods for grouse (but never saw any that day). I used it in the rain and with just a wipe down and spray of oil when I got home no rust the shotgun looks perfect still. Very happy with it and though I have a silly number of CZ guns the shotguns are not even on my radar as interesting.
 
philhut said:
I went with a Churchill Orcap II.....I own I think about 12 CZ rifles and pistols but not one of their shotguns. Compared to the Churchill the CZ felt inferior in the shop and of less quality. The Churchill felt like a much nicer gun and that was over 2 years ago and I am still very happy with the shotgun. I have shot trap with it and carried it in the woods for grouse (but never saw any that day). I used it in the rain and with just a wipe down and spray of oil when I got home no rust the shotgun looks perfect still. Very happy with it and though I have a silly number of CZ guns the shotguns are not even on my radar as interesting.
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See between the two, I was leaning towards the CZ because I'm more confident in the brand. Glad to hear your experience.
 
Well - 2500 rounds is a fair amount, more than most recreational clay shooters. The Win 101 tends to kick hard, likely due to weight or stock geometry. Of the two choices you mention, weight and fit would be the main considerations. Guns with aluminum receivers are at the lighter end of the weight spectrum.
Everyone talks about fit being important, but the average recreational shooter doesnt have a foggy clue what fit is - best to do a bit of research into this matter. A shotgun that "feels good" in the store does not necessarily offer a good fit.
 
lologd said:
See between the two, I was leaning towards the CZ because I'm more confident in the brand. Glad to hear your experience.
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Cz shotguns are just Huglu's minus the CZ stamp on the receiver. If you were thinking CZ for warranty support over huglu I can't comment as I haven't had to deal with them yet.
 
For hunting, and perhaps 1000 target loads per year, I wouldn't hesitate to go with a CZ or a Huglu. I would he shopping at Prophet River, as they will take care of you, f there is an issue with the gun. For the person that shoots 5000+ target loads per year, I would go with a used Browning or Beretta.
 
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