I am looking into buying a nice semi-affordabe over under shotgun. I have heard and read great things about the fit and finish on the CZ line of shotguns but I am a real Ruger fan. My father inlaw own's a Red Label 20 gauge and that gun is really nice IMHO. Which one to go for?
CZ or Ruger OU ?
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Both good guns i'd say go with what feels the most comfortable
gunsaholic
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Unless you find a sale, I think typically your red label is about $600.00 higher than the top of the line CZ Woodcock. I have the CZ canvasback in 20 gauge and I got it for $750.00 2 years ago. But when you see something like a price difference anywhere from 600 to a $1000.00, you have to ask if you are comparing apples to apples. You said you are a Ruger fan. Why are you thinking CZ? Is it because of price? I think the CZ shoutguns( the later ones) are fine guns and I have a SxS as well. But if you intend to do heavy shooting in the clay sports, then I am not sure if they are built for that. But I don't shot clays so I can't say for sure.
Speaking of sale, I see WSS has the red label on sale right now for $1500.00--if they have any left.
Speaking of sale, I see WSS has the red label on sale right now for $1500.00--if they have any left.
gunsaholic
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Apparently CZ, from all reports, has great service/warranty work. And they have a 5 year warranty on their shotguns.
gunsaholic
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Don't get me wrong, I think for normal shotgunning the CZ's are fine. I have no complaints about my canvasback and it is one of their lower priced guns. I think for the money, they are finished quite well. One just has to determine what they want from one. If the intention is to buy one because it is below the price of a B gun, but yet plan on doing 20, 000 rounds or more a year of clay shooting, then I think they are kidding themselves ,yet these same people will talk about what a piece of junk the gun is if it doesn't stand up to the use. There has to be some difference somewhere in the construction (besides labour costs) for the difference in prices. But for the average hunter/part time clay shooter, the CZ is fine. There is actually a post on another forum where a fellow bought a CZ canvasback last year just to see how it would hold up. Think last I read it was at 30 000 rounds without a problem. The typical hunter won't do that in a lifetime. Of course a serious clay shooter will do that every year but they don't expect it from a $1200.00 or less gun. But as far as having problems, there isn't a gun brand made that doesn't have problems, Ruger included. That's why they have warranty.
Johnn Peterson
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It's a little while back now but there used to be a small sporting goods shop toward the north end of Naniamo, across the highway from the golf course. If I remember correctly an elderly couple running it, suffered some serious problems there.I believe their son took it over for a while and eventually closed the place down. I did some maintenance work with him on a few jobs for a small local company. I purchased a few firearms there, one of which is a 20ga. Ruger Red Label. Nice light, clean, fast handling field grade gun and I still have it.
The closest I have CZ wise is a Brno ZH-304 combination gun, 7x57R/12ga. In addition I have a set of 12ga. OU barrels with it. A handy and versitile gun but definately not as smooth and fast handling on game like island Ruffs as the Red Label.
The closest I have CZ wise is a Brno ZH-304 combination gun, 7x57R/12ga. In addition I have a set of 12ga. OU barrels with it. A handy and versitile gun but definately not as smooth and fast handling on game like island Ruffs as the Red Label.
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I know everyone that ones a B gun will suggest that you buy a used B gun over a CZ, however if you plan on having the gun see 2000-2500 rounds per year, then I think a CZ shotgun will be a good gun to invest in because they can handle that much shooting. I know everyone who owns a B gun says that you should get one of them because they hold there value, but to be honest, a used CZ seems to depreciate around the same from what I have noticed when I see them forsale. I have noticed quite a few O/U shotguns like Baikals, Stoegers (IGA), and CZ's at the range that I go to, and on average, these guys that have the cheaper O/U shotguns take there guns to the range every once a week on average, and seem to shoot about 6-10 games per month.
If you turned out really getting into skeet and end up shooting 6-10 games per week, then you can sell the CZ on EE for a pretty good price and re-invest into a B gun.
I'm in the same boat, and know that I would'nt shoot more than a few nights per month, so a CZ or IGA Condor is what I will likely buy because I know for a fact that they can handle the workload.
If you turned out really getting into skeet and end up shooting 6-10 games per week, then you can sell the CZ on EE for a pretty good price and re-invest into a B gun.
I'm in the same boat, and know that I would'nt shoot more than a few nights per month, so a CZ or IGA Condor is what I will likely buy because I know for a fact that they can handle the workload.
It's a little while back now but there used to be a small sporting goods shop toward the north end of Naniamo, across the highway from the golf course. If I remember correctly an elderly couple running it, suffered some serious problems there.I believe their son took it over for a while and eventually closed the place down. I did some maintenance work with him on a few jobs for a small local company. I purchased a few firearms there, one of which is a 20ga. Ruger Red Label. Nice light, clean, fast handling field grade gun and I still have it.
The closest I have CZ wise is a Brno ZH-304 combination gun, 7x57R/12ga. In addition I have a set of 12ga. OU barrels with it. A handy and versitile gun but definately not as smooth and fast handling on game like island Ruffs as the Red Label.
Shooting Sport Supply I believe was the name of that shop. They suffered a tragic death (ie murdered after the scumbags broke into their home and forced them to drive to the shop and open it up. Killed them both and took
off with the guns).
I bought a S&W 422 handgun off of them as well as a Boito o/u shotgun. They were nice folks.
That red label with the blue receiver is a keeper John
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Johnn Peterson
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Shooting Sport Supply I believe was the name of that shop. They suffered a tragic death (ie murdered after the scumbags broke into their home and forced them to drive to the shop and open it up. Killed them both and took
off with the guns).
I bought a S&W 422 handgun off of them as well as a Boito o/u shotgun. They were nice folks.
That red label with the blue receiver is a keeper John
That's the place!! Yes,
it was a tragic state of affairs. I can't recall, did they catch the bad guys? When their son was running the shop, in addition to the Red Label, I purchased a left hand Browning A bolt in 30-06 for my Daughter and I also bought a Ruger Vaquero, 5 1/2" in 45 LC.
Actually IIRC, Ruger does not have a written warranty with their firearms, (or they did not in the past)but they often do repairs
It's a little while back now but there used to be a small sporting goods shop toward the north end of Naniamo, across the highway from the golf course. If I remember correctly an elderly couple running it, suffered some serious problems there.I believe their son took it over for a while and eventually closed the place down. I did some maintenance work with him on a few jobs for a small local company. I purchased a few firearms there, one of which is a 20ga. Ruger Red Label. Nice light, clean, fast handling field grade gun and I still have it.
Very nice! Blued receiver. One of the first run red labels. Ruger was different than most manufacturs of double guns. Most start with a 12 gauge. Rugers entry into the o/u market was the 20
The ruger is many steps above the CZ.
Johnn Peterson
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- Chemainus B.C.
Very nice! Blued receiver. One of the first run red labels. Ruger was different than most manufacturs of double guns. Most start with a 12 gauge. Rugers entry into the o/u market was the 20
It's a keeper.
