CZ75B vs CZ75BD

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Just wondering, fellas, how useful a decocker really is.

I am looking at a CZ just for plinking. Really.

So, how difficult can it be to learn how to "decock" the 75B manually? And, when would you want to do so anyway?

I am a rank newbie. Just got my license and have no experience.

On the other hand, I'm a prudent (almost) senior citizen with time on my hands to read the manual and practice the manual "decocking" at home.

I'm tempted to buy the 75B with the manual safety BUT if everyone thought the decocker was the route to go, I would spend the extra bucks.

Would appreciate any advice. Thanks.
 
Funny you should ask, I have/had both

For plinking away, makes no difference what so ever.

For cleaning up the trigger ('trigger job') doesn't matter, despite SOME people saying it's more difficult to work with a trigger mechanism which has a decocker - nonsense.

For ipsc competition in the production divison, the BD has an advantage. Ignoring the 'manual decock' where, no matter how much you practice, with slippery/sweaty/etc fingers, it's always possible to slip just a bit and get DQed, the decocker on the CZ75BD leaves the hammer at half ####. So, for the first DA shot, you do not have to pull the whole weight of the spring, it's already pre-cocked a little bit for you. With a 75B and no decocker, when decocking manually, you have to lower the hammer all the way down.
It's not a huge deal, but really, there is no advantage to the safety model that I can think of, whereas there is a (small?) advantage to the decocker model - in IPSC Production division. This is a Prod gun, really... If you wanted, for whatever reason, shoot it in Std, with only the decocker, you'd have to start DA also (but, like I said, that's really aimed for the production division). Plus, something that I'm running into - I don't have the BD anymore, only the 85Combat; one of my friends really really likes it and would love to shoot it in IPSC, but cannot manually decock, so can't use it in Prod. Even though *you* have no problems with the manual decock, if you ever think you might let someone else compete with the gun, get the decocker - it's a no brainer to use.

So, bottom line - slight competative advantage to the BD, over B, in IPSC production, plus the ease of use issue. Other than that, identical.
 
There are more parts in the decocker assembly than the manual safety. But is it harder to do a trigger job on? Not really. Sear is still there, hammer is still there, most of the time, that's the 2 major part that get worked on anyway.
 
Personally i think the decocker is not required for a firearms enthusiast or anyone willing to take the time to train. I own a CZ with just the safety and have no problems decocking the gun, its self explanatory, doesnt require any huge skills and if you can't decock a gun, then I doubt I would feel safe shooting on the line next to you. Of course, I will allow the caveat that we are talking about a properly functioning firearm with a properly accessible hammer.

In my mind, the decocker was created for .mil and le administrators who thought the risks of having the average police officer or infantry grunt decock a gun manually was mutch too risky and therefore designed a whole new feature (that in my mind is just one more think to break) instead of making sure the gun in question had a good hammer, easy to grip and then provide proper training. Of course its easier to buy a gun with a decocker because admin would rather just let nervous and sometimes borderline incompetent people flick a lever then train them to be capable users. Thats my 2 cents.

My advice would be too find someone at your club with a cz have, them show you how to decock manually and try it for yourself. If you dont think you can do it safely, then look for a decocker model.

J
 
jstreet said:
if you can't decock a gun, then I doubt I would feel safe shooting on the line next to you.
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I just love these great bits of wisdom coming from self-appointed gun know-it-alls ;)

It's the difference between dealing with the world how it really is vs how some people think it should be.
 
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Just as a philosophic view point...

From where my handgun experience is / has been (15 years of plinking, 4 years of professional full-time carry)...

Why would you ever want a handgun with a manual safety? When would you possibly engage a safety lever?

Again... We all come from different places, but I'd go for the decocker.

Cheers,

Neal
 
Ordered the 75BD this afternoon, guys. At long last, am getting into the game. Now, to take the club's safety course and, hopefully before the Fall!!!!, get my ATT. Hurray!
 
nelly said:
Just as a philosophic view point...

From where my handgun experience is / has been (15 years of plinking, 4 years of professional full-time carry)...

Why would you ever want a handgun with a manual safety? When would you possibly engage a safety lever?

Again... We all come from different places, but I'd go for the decocker.

Cheers,

Neal
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I agree. I got rid of my manual safety, so I only have a decocker now. I hit my safety by accident a few times and that is one time to many.
 
omen said:
I just love these great bits of wisdom coming from self-appointed gun know-it-alls ;)

It's the difference between dealing with the world how it really is vs how some people think it should be.
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I am not really sure how my determination of what I feel is safe, makes me a gun know it all.

That being said, maybe I should try and explain. Decocking manually while doing recreational shooting is always going to be pointed down range, in a safe direction. So as long as you dont sweep anybody including yourself, you can do it safely.

If you think my concern is unfounded, then obviously you are willing to take more risks then I.

J
 
Why would anyone want a manual safety?Why would anyone want a standard transmission,matter of choice.

And if you're that worried about it get the double action only or buy a Glock

the best safety,keep your finger off the trigger.its still possiable to have an AD with the decocker that why you should only use it pointed in a safe direction when used ,right?
 
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