But as prior people mentioned, be sure to clean your rifle after shooting this stuff, as the primers are corrosive and can potentialy damage your barrel if left to marinate. I say potentialy because my friend has been shooting corrosive ammo for years out of his CZ and never cleaned it. When he finally scrubbed it out, the bore looked brand new. So I suspect your environment plays a role as well. As he lives in low humidity Alberta, he probably got lucky.
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"Gas system" means simply that some of the propellant gases driving the bullet down the barrel is tapped off to drive a piston rearward. This piston movement then provides the work nessasary to cycle the action automaticly for you, instead of by hand like a bolt action.
It seems that since you need to rely on surplus ammo that at some point you're going to have a hard time finding it since there isn't factory stuff being made/sold to us. I guess that's probably not he case though.
So what do people usually do to properly maintain them. Poor windex down the barrel after shooting and then, for the most part, clean/dry/oil the barrel before putting it away? or does the whole gun have to be broken down and cleaned everytime?
Do the tactical mods like folding stock or anything like that make it restricted?
I want one! Does wolverine stock them often?
So what do people usually do to properly maintain them. Poor windex down the barrel after shooting and then, for the most part, clean/dry/oil the barrel before putting it away? or does the whole gun have to be broken down and cleaned everytime?
Do the tactical mods like folding stock or anything like that make it restricted?
I want one! Does wolverine stock them often?
there is factory ammo coming in from europe.
"prvi partizan", "igman", "sellier & bellot", and "fiocchi" are some of the brands ive seen. my gun really liked the igman stuff i got, and it was only $14 for 20 soft point rounds, reloadable cases(and non-corrosive!) the prvi partizan stuff seems to be more common, i believe i paid $17 for my last box and it is also non corrosive, hunting ammo.
remember this is an infantry rifle, so its very easy to take apart for cleaning, no tools are required. use water or windex or whatever it takes to remove those corrosive salts. one wet patch will remove a lot of the corrosives if you do it right after you shoot, but dont neglect the gas piston for long. the longer you wait to clean, the more time it will take to get everything shiny again! a piece of wood or bone (or your fingernail) can be used to clean off the black scaly stuff that will accumulate on the piston.
im not sure what the law says about folding stocks, but i know they are legal, and i think the overall length is measured when the stock is open, so it shouldnt affect non restricted status.
one potential drawback to owning this gun is that it is in the hated a$$ault rifle category. if any more rifles are to become restricted, this may be one...
"prvi partizan", "igman", "sellier & bellot", and "fiocchi" are some of the brands ive seen. my gun really liked the igman stuff i got, and it was only $14 for 20 soft point rounds, reloadable cases(and non-corrosive!) the prvi partizan stuff seems to be more common, i believe i paid $17 for my last box and it is also non corrosive, hunting ammo.
remember this is an infantry rifle, so its very easy to take apart for cleaning, no tools are required. use water or windex or whatever it takes to remove those corrosive salts. one wet patch will remove a lot of the corrosives if you do it right after you shoot, but dont neglect the gas piston for long. the longer you wait to clean, the more time it will take to get everything shiny again! a piece of wood or bone (or your fingernail) can be used to clean off the black scaly stuff that will accumulate on the piston.
im not sure what the law says about folding stocks, but i know they are legal, and i think the overall length is measured when the stock is open, so it shouldnt affect non restricted status.
one potential drawback to owning this gun is that it is in the hated a$$ault rifle category. if any more rifles are to become restricted, this may be one...
H'ok - here's my spiel, mostly addressed already:
Milsurp ammo: Mostly corrosive due to salts in the primers. Cases usually laquered steel and wrong priming system, so not reloadable. Countries that are selling surplus usually sell their oldest surplus each year, so each year more surplus is available. Vary the country of origin, and the sheer amount they're selling each year, and it's actually relatively common. The greater issue is importing it, as one of our ministries has a hard on for mercury primers (mercury is used in making them, in incredibly small amounts). Therefore, the ministry bans them from coming into canada, yes lets oil and mine tailings pollute groundwater sources.... you get the picture.
Milsurp 7.62x39: On the west coast, rediculously common. There are several stores that have more crates of x39 than guns, and each crate is usually 1120 rds.
Cleaning: Many people use ammonia/windex. Ammonia dissolves salts, but is caustic, expensive, and smelly. What many people do is in fact give their gun a bath. The cz is especially suited for this because there are no parts on it that can't get wet. To do so, simply boil a pot of water, then pour boiling water on all parts while scrubbing with a brush. Submerging easily removeable parts in a plugged sink also works. This way the salts are dissolved by the water, and your part is heated up, and will self dry by evaporating the remaining water. Continue cleaning and oiling as usual.
Gas system: During each shot, a little of the gas propelling the bullet down the barrel is redirected out a vent in the top or bottom of the barrel. That gas pushes on a piston/rod, that literally kicks the bolt, which then flies backwards and cycles the action. Your PAL book has pics.
Availability: any major area can get x39. Commercial is usually $15-$20/box at a reasonable price (I buy igman for $15/20), but it varies on maker and store. Commercial can be reloaded, so save your brass to either eventually reload or sell to someone who does.
Milsurp ammo: Mostly corrosive due to salts in the primers. Cases usually laquered steel and wrong priming system, so not reloadable. Countries that are selling surplus usually sell their oldest surplus each year, so each year more surplus is available. Vary the country of origin, and the sheer amount they're selling each year, and it's actually relatively common. The greater issue is importing it, as one of our ministries has a hard on for mercury primers (mercury is used in making them, in incredibly small amounts). Therefore, the ministry bans them from coming into canada, yes lets oil and mine tailings pollute groundwater sources.... you get the picture.
Milsurp 7.62x39: On the west coast, rediculously common. There are several stores that have more crates of x39 than guns, and each crate is usually 1120 rds.
Cleaning: Many people use ammonia/windex. Ammonia dissolves salts, but is caustic, expensive, and smelly. What many people do is in fact give their gun a bath. The cz is especially suited for this because there are no parts on it that can't get wet. To do so, simply boil a pot of water, then pour boiling water on all parts while scrubbing with a brush. Submerging easily removeable parts in a plugged sink also works. This way the salts are dissolved by the water, and your part is heated up, and will self dry by evaporating the remaining water. Continue cleaning and oiling as usual.
Gas system: During each shot, a little of the gas propelling the bullet down the barrel is redirected out a vent in the top or bottom of the barrel. That gas pushes on a piston/rod, that literally kicks the bolt, which then flies backwards and cycles the action. Your PAL book has pics.
Availability: any major area can get x39. Commercial is usually $15-$20/box at a reasonable price (I buy igman for $15/20), but it varies on maker and store. Commercial can be reloaded, so save your brass to either eventually reload or sell to someone who does.
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Did you watch the video I linked...?
It shows in there. Same location on a CZ.
It shows in there. Same location on a CZ.
go to www.leverarms.com they have the ammo there 1520 rounds for 240$ very fast shipping there out of vancouver b.c. i was going to buy an 858 but went to look at my friends first they are very cheap guns very light very dissapointing to see this i was disgusted in then it is plastic painted to look like wood i odnt like them buy maybe you will!
