Czech Mauser in 7.62X51

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Anyone fimiliar with the Czech Mausers that have been converted to 7.62? I have obtained one from a friend. The overall condition of the rifle is excellent, and the bore is mint. Bright and shiney. The stock is almost flawless and clean, this looks like a new rifle. On the top of the receiver there is a DOU 45, and of course on the barrel is a big 7.62. The only flaw I can see is that a previous owner has installed a beautiful Williams peep sight on the action. It was a good job, but in order to install the sight, he had to inlet the stock a little and drill and tap the receiver. Were these actions strong enough to support full house 308 Winchester loads, or do I have to use reduced loads? What would these rifles be worth in excellent condition like mine? I'd just like to know a little of there history, doesn't seem to be much info on the net.
 
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It would be worth more if the Bubba Williams sight was not added to your rifle.:(
I used fullhouse 308 loads in mine because it was a 98 Mauser action, but maybe to be safe use military brass and load down 3 or 4 grains.
A chamber cast would help to see how long throated it is too. :dancingbanana:
 
It's an Israeli Mauser (made by Czechs on contract in the late 40's using left over WW2 Nazi receivers). The D&T turned it from a $300-350 rifle to a $150 rifle. Congrats.

As for shooting, use full house .308 - it's fine. Lots of .375 H&H's, .300 Win Mags and .35 Whelens are built on these, so .308 should be no problem at all.
 
Thanks for the replys guys. It's a shame about the Williams sight being added on, because this is really the most beautiful condition milsurp that I have ever come across. It is absolutly flawless. I think I may remove the Williams sight and attempt to repair the inletting on the stock. I think I'll enjoy shooting her though. I guess when you think about it, being converted to 7.62 makes her unoriginal anyhow?:rolleyes:
 
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Thanks for the replys guys. It's a shame about the Williams sight being added on, because this is really the most beautiful condition milsurp that I have ever come across. It is absolutly flawless. I think I may remove the Williams sight and attempt to repair the inletting on the stock. I think I'll enjoy shooting her though. I guess when you think about it, being converted to 7.62 makes her unoriginal anyhow?:rolleyes:
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No, not at all. It's collectible as an Israeli 7.62 Mauser. Of course, as you point out, the drill & tap kills alot of the collector appeal. It should still shoot good though.
 
It may not be an Israeli. I've never seen an Israeli described as:
Hi-Standard said:
The overall condition of the rifle is excellent, and the bore is mint. Bright and shiney. The stock is almost flawless and clean, this looks like a new rifle. On the top of the receiver there is a DOU 45, and of course on the barrel is a big 7.62.
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They are usually somewhat beat looking. Great shooters but not usually pretty. I've got one and sold another.

I think I've got the same gun you are talking about. Looks brand new, you would swear it's a Norinco or some other knock off. The receiver at the barrel is stamped with a 7.62 and no other markings. Mine is registered as a Spanish Mauser but I think thats just because it's 7.62 - the verifier couldn't find anything else to put it under.
I've never shot mine, have to get around to cleaning it up, still got some grease in the bolt and action.
I'd like to know what it is as well. Someone suggested mine could be from that place in the states that refurbs milsurps and passes them off as collector items, can't think of the name.
I'll try to get a picture in the next few days.
 
Claven is right, the collector value is compromised with the sight, BUT is hard to get any nicer rifles to shoot for the bucks. Think of that sight as an addagio for your personal pleasure.
I like mine and I enjoy shooting it. What more do you want?
if you get into collecting them, oh boy..... it never goes away....
 
Agreed. There were 2 import batches of israeli Mausers. The ones that came from Israel are mint. The ones that went to South America for 20 years and then came to Canada are beat.

It's an isreali, sure as sh!t.
 
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I have 5 or 6 different Israeli Mausers and everyone except the FN contract guns were made as 7.92 and converted. According to Robert W. D. Ball in the book Mauser Military Rifles of the World. The FN's were made as 7.62, the receivers have a star, and in the middle is a sword with olive leaves. At least that's what I think the leaves are. They are a piece of modern history and are probably the last military bolt action rifles involved in a high profile all out war. I would consider them a significent piece of middle east history.
Too bad about the Williams sight but it can probably be repaired.
Love to see some pictures of the gun.
I like a gun that has some history to it. New means it never went any where, it's like a veteran that sat behind a desk during the war. His job was as important as the front line troops but not as risky.
 
OK boys, I've got a few pics up of my Mauser. The only star I can see is a little one at the left side of the receiver just above the wood. In one of the photos, you can see writing on the left hand side of the receive and BRNO is clearly visable. In another photo you can see the Williams sight and where the stock has been inletted.


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Yep, that's an Israeli. Usually have a 7.62 stamped on the bottom edge of the buttstock as well.
Now you need one of the .22's to go with it.

I'll have to start a new thread with pictures of my odd 7.62 mauser.
 
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