Dancing a Jig around Prohibition

Wally

Wally

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Just thinkin again! What make's these Restricteds, restricted? I Know there is the old "It looks mean an Nasty" idea and then there is the "It's a Baby killer Varient" but is there a specific part that is actually on the Prohib list? I'm browsing the market and there are all these Rifles that are Similar to the prohibs but get away with Technicalities.

POINT:
Could a Part be Remanufactured and sold as a Substitute for a Black Rifle Part? For Example, lets say it's the Upper on an AR-1* that is the Restricted part, could a fella Remanifacture said upper with a few different bumps and lumps, Rename it, Register it as something else but have all the Non-Restricted AR parts fit on it? Know what I'm getting at? Or are all AR parts Restricted?

Wally
 
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"or variant of" if its named you screwed look at the ak's they even banned the .22 BLOWBACK rifles as variants of the gas operated ak47... wtf?
 
Not all AR parts are restricted. The only part that is restricted is the reciever, everything else is not restricted or controlled. How ever, try to make a rifle that takes AR15 uppers and you are making a "variant of".
 
Guns are made restricted or prohibited either by listing characteristics or by naming them.

Full-autos and smallish handguns are prohibited by characteristics.
FN-FALs and AR-15s are made prohibited/restricted by name.

This is why some rifles that you would expect to be P/R are not: simply because they did not exist when the law was passed, so they could not be named.

Most of the guns that are named were chosen based on how they looked, but looks themselves are not a direct factor in the legal status of a gun, neither are any other features.
 
"...What make's these Restricteds, restricted?..." The Socialist F**ks decided they wanted it to be as difficult and expensive as possible to own one.
 
:mad: I can't wait to see the end of this ####. Thanks for the answers. Just thought it may be another avenue to persue but I guess you guys were all over that like Fat kids on smarties long before I ever came along.
 
I'd be very curious to make a lower with a different trigger mechanism and magazine well that just <happens> to fit an AR upper and see how it would class. Then choose another named prohib/restricted, and repeat, different trigger mech and mag well (both either designed from scratch, or taken from a non-restricted rifle)but fits every other part and see what the RCMP thinks of it. The interfacing of the trigger mech versus the other parts being the <relatively> simple thing that they are (looking at my SKS for example, there are only 2 points where it contacts the rest of the rifle's parts, the hammer, and that little square rod-like thingy that sticks out in front of it), I don't see the development of a "universal" type trigger mech that far-fetched. Same goes for mag wells and mag release systems, as long as the cartridges end up being in the same position in relation to the bolt when the mag is locked in, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't function.
 
The essential difference between the 180 and the 180B is the lower ass'y. So, following that example, what you are proposing should fly. BUT, Dlask's pump action design was ruled to be a variant ofthe AR-15, and therefore restricted. I suspect that the rules are being interpreted and improvised according to the phase of the moon, etc.
 
The downfall of the Dlask PAC5 was that it was billed as a non-restricted AR15 pump carbine. They tossed around the AR15 word far to often. Bingo, AR15 variant.

Now take my AR180B lower idea, clearly it's a variant of the AR180B, it just has some feature of the AR15.. Non-restricted. :D
 
True, but I have it on good authority it would be non-restricted. Then again, that was if I made a one off. I'm sure if I had the money and I submitted it with the intent to mass produce, it would be restricted.

Then again, we do have a new government now.
 
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